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| She's just in an o ring . She'll bend around my leg all day at a walk . Anything faster than that she just throws her head to my boot. She'll touch my boot all day long , but that's easy for her bc she just wants to bend in her neck & not her rib cage . It's hard to lift one going into a barrel bc it's so hard to not cross over the neck & that just dumps them on the front end more. Maybe I'll do more off the pattern ? She does try so hard .. I just can't get her to use herself better on the pattern. When I try to shape her & bend her she just starts slinging her butt & getting to bendy |
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 The BHW Book Worm
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| Start ridding the hind end instead of the front (easyer said than done and isn't the most detailed advice) I would work on getting control of her hips until you get control of her hips working a true square doesn't happen if they are a habitual hip slinger. Start from a stop then work your way forward using a fence when u feel her really bring her hip up release.its important to hold her neck and shoulder straight during this. Keep adding steps till u get both sides independently moving at your request. then move to squares and PROPER text book rollbacks (hold the flames not saying running a horse up into a fence doesn't get the job done) as a reined cutting horse trainer would do. If you need help just youtube some of the things I have described. I have a mare who is 15hh and wears a size 82 blanket she is very long and her hind end isn't naturally under her if a horse isn't in pain teaching them to follow there hip (keep there hip under them) can be learned through very consistent training. To get a better feel for the hind end have a buddy help you and tell them any time the back right or left foot is off the ground while your centered looking forward. Do this at all gates and in circles till you have mastered it. Your feel will improve 10 fold and you will start ridding the back end. Just wanted to add it looks like she really wants to do her job for you  that is half the battle
Edited by Thistle2011 2016-01-17 6:40 AM
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| I've had her at a dressage trainer last July for a couple weeks . She did wonders moving the hip around on her . She had her holding it in at the lope all the way into & around the first barrel , but as you added any speed or she got anxious , she would go right back to dropping her front end & kicking the hip out . Thanks for all the great advice ! This horse knows so much more than when I first bought her . She'll back & roll over her hocks now , which shed have never done two years ago . It still just feels like a losing battle half the time though when I can't keep her rounded or square :( the horse has won me two 1 d saddles already .. I just know how much more she could give me if I could get her to have a more efficient turn . But I just can't get it done at speed |
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| I would work on collection. You may need to rider her in a more severe bit. I like the grasshopper bit, the Ed wright pretzel bit many people have success with.
You may have to sacrifice runs where you run up to your pocket, two handed slow her down and shorten her stride at the rate point, then turn the barrel speed her up, and do the same thing at each barrel.
You may need to do this for an entire year before her muscle memory changes. |
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| Start thinking about where your putting your weight are you putting any on the inside stirrup in your turns you maybe influencing this and not t even being aware of it. |
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The BHW Book Worm
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| Fancy Lass - 2016-01-17 9:31 AM
I've had her at a dressage trainer last July for a couple weeks . She did wonders moving the hip around on her . She had her holding it in at the lope all the way into & around the first barrel , but as you added any speed or she got anxious , she would go right back to dropping her front end & kicking the hip out . Thanks for all the great advice ! This horse knows so much more than when I first bought her . She'll back & roll over her hocks now , which shed have never done two years ago . It still just feels like a losing battle half the time though when I can't keep her rounded or square :( the horse has won me two 1 d saddles already .. I just know how much more she could give me if I could get her to have a more efficient turn . But I just can't get it done at speed
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| Sometimes the better trained the more sensitive to how we're sitting i have to concentrate one keeping my weight to the outside stirrup, i teach mine to move the hips shoulders and i caught myself putting weight on the inside stirrup when working barrels and it would throw him off. I love to train my own and learn so i just keep trying different things i figure it out |
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