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So I put BOT hock boots on today

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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-03-31 2:08 PM
Subject: RE: So I put BOT hock boots on today


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ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-03-31 2:07 PM
CYA Ranch - 2014-03-31 2:01 PM
ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-03-31 1:19 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-03-31 10:32 AM I prefer to use mine before riding and cooling therapy after (like a poultice
I think this should be just the opposite.  You want cooling (like alcohol mixed with mineral ice) to bring everything down tight.  Then after the workout, use the BOT's to remove any imflammation caused by the workout.  If everything is warmed up and loose when you start, that is when injuries have a greater chance of occuring.  This is just my opinion. 



ETA:  The above is if you are using the leg boots for soft tissue, not the hock boots, sorry.
I'm not a BOT user but I cold hose my horses and try to cool them down after a run.  I guess I don't understand the logic of trying to heat up an already hot horse after they run.  JMO. 
The BOT wraps use the horses body heat to remove any imflammation that might be in the applied area.  So if your horse strained itself or anything during your run and just had some minor imflammation, the BOT wraps would remove it (kinda like a sweat to some degree) before it became a bigger issue.  They increase circulation, so the blood flow removes the toxins/excess fluid from the area they are applied. 

 OK thank you for explaining that.  I'm a PHT user so I haven't studied up on the BOT much.
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Esther
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2014-03-31 2:47 PM
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CYA Ranch - 2014-03-31 2:08 PM
ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-03-31 2:07 PM
CYA Ranch - 2014-03-31 2:01 PM
ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-03-31 1:19 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-03-31 10:32 AM I prefer to use mine before riding and cooling therapy after (like a poultice
I think this should be just the opposite.  You want cooling (like alcohol mixed with mineral ice) to bring everything down tight.  Then after the workout, use the BOT's to remove any imflammation caused by the workout.  If everything is warmed up and loose when you start, that is when injuries have a greater chance of occuring.  This is just my opinion. 



ETA:  The above is if you are using the leg boots for soft tissue, not the hock boots, sorry.
I'm not a BOT user but I cold hose my horses and try to cool them down after a run.  I guess I don't understand the logic of trying to heat up an already hot horse after they run.  JMO. 
The BOT wraps use the horses body heat to remove any imflammation that might be in the applied area.  So if your horse strained itself or anything during your run and just had some minor imflammation, the BOT wraps would remove it (kinda like a sweat to some degree) before it became a bigger issue.  They increase circulation, so the blood flow removes the toxins/excess fluid from the area they are applied. 
 OK thank you for explaining that.  I'm a PHT user so I haven't studied up on the BOT much.

I am like CYA with the cold hosing. So my question is, if you use BOT after a run do you cold hose after you use the BOT or is that enough? 
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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-03-31 3:15 PM
Subject: RE: So I put BOT hock boots on today


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 Remember  Anytime you apply heat to a fresh injury the results cannot be what you are wanting.  Google has lots of information about effects of applying heat to fresh injurys.  That being said  I would not apply heat after a work out. 
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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-03-31 3:16 PM
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Esther - 2014-03-31 4:01 AM For about an hour, and my horse was LAME when I took them off. It's the first time I've ever tried BOT and was wanting to buy the bell boots but now..? Anyone else have this happen? When I asked the lady whose I tried, she said her horse did the same thing. Also going to add, this horse had been injected two years ago but hadn't needed injected since.

I know Nevertooold had the same problem with the Knee wrap on herself 
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-03-31 3:33 PM
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SG. - 2014-03-31 3:16 PM
Esther - 2014-03-31 4:01 AM For about an hour, and my horse was LAME when I took them off. It's the first time I've ever tried BOT and was wanting to buy the bell boots but now..? Anyone else have this happen? When I asked the lady whose I tried, she said her horse did the same thing. Also going to add, this horse had been injected two years ago but hadn't needed injected since.
I know Nevertooold had the same problem with the Knee wrap on herself 

I had it on for about 20 minutes and I was walking with it on and had it under my jeans. I couldn't get home soon enough to get it off. My knee blew up like crazy. It took days between icing and mags to get it down and for it to quit hurting.

I had wondered if I was allergic to the materials in it?

My husband tore his rotator cuff and he has been using ice, mags and a Pain X light. I bought him a BOT T-shirt to sleep in as some have said they got good results. He said it does nothing and has been sticking just using the above. 
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Esther
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2014-03-31 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: So I put BOT hock boots on today



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I just got home from work and my horse is STILL limping. I hought this morning he was some better but he isnt. My husband is so mad at me right now. My question now is what could this have done to him in order for me to get him sound again and be comfortable? There's no heat in his legs anywhere and no obvious swelling. I'm at a loss.
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-03-31 8:26 PM
Subject: RE: So I put BOT hock boots on today


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Nevertooold - 2014-03-31 3:33 PM
SG. - 2014-03-31 3:16 PM
Esther - 2014-03-31 4:01 AM For about an hour, and my horse was LAME when I took them off. It's the first time I've ever tried BOT and was wanting to buy the bell boots but now..? Anyone else have this happen? When I asked the lady whose I tried, she said her horse did the same thing. Also going to add, this horse had been injected two years ago but hadn't needed injected since.
I know Nevertooold had the same problem with the Knee wrap on herself 
I had it on for about 20 minutes and I was walking with it on and had it under my jeans. I couldn't get home soon enough to get it off. My knee blew up like crazy. It took days between icing and mags to get it down and for it to quit hurting.



I had wondered if I was allergic to the materials in it?



My husband tore his rotator cuff and he has been using ice, mags and a Pain X light. I bought him a BOT T-shirt to sleep in as some have said they got good results. He said it does nothing and has been sticking just using the above. 

I bought a tshirt for myself.  I felt absolutely nothing either.  
To the OP - I have no idea what to try now but here's a bump for you. 
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Rope-N-Run
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2014-04-30 6:00 PM
Subject: RE: So I put BOT hock boots on today


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CYA Ranch - 2014-03-31 2:08 PM
ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-03-31 2:07 PM
CYA Ranch - 2014-03-31 2:01 PM
ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-03-31 1:19 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-03-31 10:32 AM I prefer to use mine before riding and cooling therapy after (like a poultice
I think this should be just the opposite.  You want cooling (like alcohol mixed with mineral ice) to bring everything down tight.  Then after the workout, use the BOT's to remove any imflammation caused by the workout.  If everything is warmed up and loose when you start, that is when injuries have a greater chance of occuring.  This is just my opinion. 



ETA:  The above is if you are using the leg boots for soft tissue, not the hock boots, sorry.
I'm not a BOT user but I cold hose my horses and try to cool them down after a run.  I guess I don't understand the logic of trying to heat up an already hot horse after they run.  JMO. 
The BOT wraps use the horses body heat to remove any imflammation that might be in the applied area.  So if your horse strained itself or anything during your run and just had some minor imflammation, the BOT wraps would remove it (kinda like a sweat to some degree) before it became a bigger issue.  They increase circulation, so the blood flow removes the toxins/excess fluid from the area they are applied. 
 OK thank you for explaining that.  I'm a PHT user so I haven't studied up on the BOT much.

I am like CYA with the cold hosing. So my question is, if you use BOT after a run do you cold hose after you use the BOT or is that enough? 

This is the easiest/simplest way I have had it explained. BOT reflects the infrared heat waves back towards the horse which causes vasodilation (opens up the veins & arteries) which leads to increased circulation. For legs I usually cold horse directly after workout or run then apply BOT later like over night. There have been studies that show it is beneficial to bring the temperature of a horses tendons and ligaments down after exercise.
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