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| And just FYI, and Herbie Knows this.. I spend more a month on Curost than I do my Car payment. It was really hard for me to justify 115.00 a month, but I am picking up more checks since my horse can breathe and actually run. |
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| Picked up some omnis today and filled their feed pans full of them .... it sure slowed them down and there was a ton less bickering and ugly looks from the horses ... I was even able to feed my yearling out with the geldings they didn't bother him much at all. They played musical pans just a few times then everyone settled in and ate |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | want2chase3 - 2015-08-19 12:57 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-08-19 12:25 PM I don't have anymore ulcery, rough looking horses since I cut out all of the processed commercial feed that we were feeding our competition horses. We were using a lot of Gastrogard, EPM drugs, fat supplements, blood builders, injectible vitamins, and constantly going to the vet for inflammation and injuries.
Like you mention, ALL of mine looked bad and it was a constant struggle to keep them looking decent. I know now that mine was largely due to cattle medications that were contaminating the feed, but my horses have NEVER looked better than they do now. They are on the most natural diet that I can provide for them. High quality alfalfa cubes with oats and flax, some grass hay if they want it, and pasture at night. My daughter likes to supplement her mares with 1# of oats a day for a little extra "fire", but otherwise they are not getting any feed. We have been very pleased with the results that we have seen since we started focusing on a primarily forage diet. You aren't feeding the omega force anymore? I've moved and now my horses are on 24 hour turnout on pasture but it's been so dry and hot here grass is burning up. I've got 4 on the omega force and my yearling on ultium growth. I'm thinking about trying to get some more omnis if it's readily available here still .. sick of watching my geldings scrap over grain.. I have to take the yearling out to feed him because those bullies will run him off his feed. I know they didn't scarf down the omnis like they do the grain. I don't have stalls anymore and the whole pasture is hot wire so no where to tie and feed them. Such a pain!
That is one of the things I absolutely love about the Omnis cubes, my broodmares don't fight over the feed anymore. They pretty much just follow me around until thier feed is put out then happily munch thier cubes for an hour or two. Much safer for me out there feeding them plus I am feeding less pounds of feed and hay combined and they all put on weight. |
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| I have a mare that is BAD about getting sick with ulcers when hauling. Even to small jackpots. Here is what I do:
Everyday, she stays turned out morning and night and gets free choice grass hay with a flake or two of alfalfa a day.
Feed: Blue Bonnet Intensify
SmartGut Ultra
1/2 cup flax seed
Red Cell (while hauling hard)
2 days before barrel race: she gets a maintenance dose of Abler omeprazole granules (2 packets) in her feed mixed with 1/2 scoop sweet feed and kayro syrup (I have to hide them well and cannot mix them with water or water based additives)
1 day before barrel race and during barrel race she gets treatment dose of Abler omeprazole granules (3 packets) in her feed with the above mixture.
She gets a hay bag with grass hay and alfalfa at the trailer/ in stall the entire time accept about 20 mins before a run.
I give her 1 packet of omep granules the day after usually to keep the "backlash" from the omep from causing trouble.
Those packets are a pain to buy honestly, and they are $3/day treatment dose, BUT they WORK. They come from out of country. USDA sent them the "you better stop" letter years ago stating there was 110% of the omep in the granules than was claimed. I read research in the vet books at work about "enteric coated granules" and the paste made by Merial being the only things proven to work. These are the only "enteric coated granules" that I know of on the market.
Good luck!
This is the only thing I have found to keep my mare on her feed and feeling good under stress.
Waned to add I feel like the SmartGut Ultra also plays a key role in how well she is doing right now. I tried the plain SmartGut and she was OK but not great. I wont take her off of it accept maybe go to the plain over the winter for cost reasons.
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| Has anyone tried Jailbreak paste from OxyGen?
My new mare has ulcers and the seller forgot to mention it so when I took her off her ulcer meds unknowingly and took her to a race we had a knock down drag out to get in the arena. I've done a week of UlcerGard, Formula 1, U7, and probiotics along with Renew Gold and free choice alfalfa/orchard grass. We have a race tomorrow to qualify for state, so I'm giving her a tube of Jailbreak. I'll let you all know how it goes. |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | merdth6 - 2015-08-19 2:55 PM We use Standlee Alfalfa cubes or pellets. The reason why we switch is because sometimes the store doesn't always have cubes. I also disagree about the alfalfa. We need to make sure our horses get enough calcium since the calcium to phosphorus ratio is inverted because we are feeding whole oats and flax seed. Maybe your right though and I'm expecting to much to happen too soon.
I understand on switching due to shortages. Standlee is a quality company. You can supplement with calcium vs feeding alfalfa though- for Ca/Phos ratio needs, I am sure you know. But I do think Alfalfa is great for ulcery horses.
Do you grind your flax fresh or feed it whole? Or is it milled already? Just curious. |
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Location: IL | TurnLane - 2015-08-20 10:12 AM merdth6 - 2015-08-19 2:55 PM We use Standlee Alfalfa cubes or pellets. The reason why we switch is because sometimes the store doesn't always have cubes. I also disagree about the alfalfa. We need to make sure our horses get enough calcium since the calcium to phosphorus ratio is inverted because we are feeding whole oats and flax seed. Maybe your right though and I'm expecting to much to happen too soon. I understand on switching due to shortages. Standlee is a quality company. You can supplement with calcium vs feeding alfalfa though- for Ca/Phos ratio needs, I am sure you know. But I do think Alfalfa is great for ulcery horses.
Do you grind your flax fresh or feed it whole? Or is it milled already? Just curious.
We feed the flax seed whole |
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 It's not my fault I'm perfect
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | http://www.kerx.com/products/RiteTrac/
Target's hindgut, made 2 of my horses completely new horses.... |
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