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| I have bought three foals in utero... It worked out for two and one is in the oven, that said I have been screwed by people in the horse business so only have done it with breeders I know and trust, this next foal that I have reserved is a leap of faith(or stupidity) due to the fact I don't know the breeder, but, I researched her and asked around,(contacted past buyers from info on website) and we will see how it goes, I am a gambler I guess.... |
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Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | just MY OPINION But I dont think i'd ever buy one in Utero. THAT BEING SAID. If it was a foal of a REALLY nice stud and a nice proven mare and they are offering the foal for sale for less than it would usually go for, I MIGHT take a gamble on it.
Other wise no, I wont sell mine in utero either. It can be a mess. |
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Location: Desert Land | Thanks for the input guys. It seems as though its split about down the middle. I'll know in a few months if everything went off without a hitch. So far, so good. |
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Location: Montana | rockinas - 2014-01-21 6:25 PM
TheOldGrayMare - 2014-01-21 5:49 PM ausranch - 2014-01-21 3:41 PM Interesting idea. I didn't realize you could insure an embryo - but of course you would be able to. So what are the rates on one of those policies? Someone brought up the gender issue - it's hard for me to imagine either a buyer or seller not caring about that. But if you really don't care a lot on gender, I think it's as good a time to buy as any. 50% seems fair enough considering cash flow and risk. Who does the foaling? That would be a handy thing about ETs - you can actually transfer the recip mare and the transaction is cleaner that way. As others have said, I'd love to sell mine that way. Well, I think I would . . . I think the reality would be less ideal because I don't sell to people that are neutral on the subject of color or gender. I never have made any effort to and am sure I never will. But there are not any DTF sons or daughters on the way here either. Is there frozen DFP semen? I wouldn't buy one but we don't buy foals. I'm not sure of the insurance rates on embryos. I need to call thought pretty quick here as I will have a couple ready to insure soon enough. There is DFP frozen semen available through 2 vets here in the US.
Thank you both. That's interesting.
Wow - 15% is steep! |
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| rockinas - 2014-01-21 7:23 PM
I've sold a few embryos but not a foal in utero. I am scared to sell a foal in utero, surely if I did that, the mare would abort or something weird will happen. I sell first come first serve with a contract/deposit. Several of my foals sell before they are even a day old, this way. I'd just rather wait until they are safe on the ground but that is just me.   That and I keep the fillies we get.....I only sell colts most of the time.
I'm with you - I'd rather wait until they foal out and then post them for sale. |
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Location: Texas | I'm just wondering, if you said you would drop the price from what they cost when born...say on a DTF. His stud fee is 6500+500 booking. On the ground I think you can find a "cheap" DTF for 15,000. Soooo if I'm going to spend the money to buy in utero it's not much different than me spending the money on just breeding to him myself. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | I don't care who the sire and dam are. I want to see them first. |
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Location: Oklahoma | hoofs_in_motion - 2014-01-21 4:20 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2014-01-21 4:07 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2014-01-21 1:50 PM I bought my sorrel filly in utero, I put the deposit on the foal in march.....filly was foaled in may. She is a granddaughter of frenchmans guy and mr eye opener. I had never bought a foal that way....but tried it anyways. I was happy with the deal, but both parents are appendix so I ended up with a grade filly.....but the seller was very nice and gave me half the money back on the filly. And I got a nice chromed out red head who I adore.
I wouldn't hesitate to do it again in a heartbeat......only if the foal can be registered LOL Oh wow, they didn't know???
I could go on......and on
Now that's a seller with integrity and morals. Good on them for making it right even though they had been taken by the stallion owner.
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Location: Oklahoma | If the foal is by a high dollar stallion, then I agree that breeding one's own is a good alternative. However, buyinh in utero is not just about the stallion but also getting access to a good producing mare. I have bought two in utero, but it was by purchasing the mare who was already bred. One came out with way more white than I wanted, but it made him quite marketable. The other was a stunning colt who was everything I was looking for and ended up dying at several months old from an internal congenital defect. |
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