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OhMax
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2019-10-04 1:47 PM
Subject: RE: Barns! Ideas and all the do's and don'ts


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MOGirl07 - 2019-10-04 10:56 AM


OhMax - 2019-10-04 10:05 AM


We are in Iowa but still have our barn open on the south side - it’s also naturally protected by a hill.  We have long runs instead of stalls. About 2/3 under roof and 1/3 outside then a gate on the end to our dry lot.  When everyone is friendly with each other and the ground is safe outside we just leave the gates open and they can come and go.  Right now we are rotating 2 in and 2 out as we introduce a new horse and wait for the 2 jerks to get their shoes pulled for winter in a few weeks, then all 4 will be together.


i really like this setup compared to stalls.  If we had to lock one up for say an injury, we could do it easily with a couple panels across a run.  I like that they have fresh air and can move around at their leisure. We also do our run cleaning with a skidloader which makes it quick.  


We have auto wateters - I love them for the most part, way nicer in the winter and nice knowing they always have water.  We’ve been fortunate to not need to monitor water intake on anything, but again they’re set up in such a way we could if we needed to put up a panel to prevent one from reaching the waterer and hang buckets.


 


i would like a water hydrant in the barn, but we have water close by in the shop.  


If I could add anything it would probably be a small window AC unit on my tackroom to try and keep air moving and control the humidity a little better, we really fight mold on tack during some seasons.  I’m too cheap to buy a dehumidifier, maybe next year.



To the OP, sorry to ask a second question on your thread But OhMax, I'd be interested in pics of your set up. Long indoor/outdoor runs are more appealing to us also but I can't seem tim envision it in my head.


No problem! I grew up boarding in stall barns, so this was a new setup to me too.  My in-laws (the trees behind the hay bales are the edge of their place) have the same setup and I really like it.

Thats the best picture I’ve got right now.  The 4 runs span 60’ of barn so each one is give or take 15’ wide.  Originally I had said 2/3 under roof but looking at the picture its probably closer to 50/50.  The white downspout is the end of the original barn, since this picture was taken we’ve added on and the roofline now extends out all the way in the last run.  The 3rd and 4th have about 8 less ft under roof because we have a garage door on the west end where we back our hay trailer in to unload into the loft and then store the baler and other hay equipment.

The dry lot extends to the left of the picture i’d say another 60’ to the fenceline of our cattle pasture - there was an existing waterer there when we built out the barn so we split off that waterline and came up to these waterers.

It’s a little bit of a hodge podge, we’ve built it all ourselves since the original barn was moved.  The plan is to build and indoor arena with a similar run setup off a lean where the haybales are, reusing all the pipe here and then completely enclosing this barn and using it for hay and to get some of our equipment out of the weather as our business expands (hopefully).

 

 

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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2019-10-04 6:36 PM
Subject: RE: Barns! Ideas and all the do's and don'ts



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1DSoon - 2019-10-04 12:16 PM


OhMax - 2019-10-04 11:05 AM


We are in Iowa but still have our barn open on the south side - it’s also naturally protected by a hill.  We have long runs instead of stalls. About 2/3 under roof and 1/3 outside then a gate on the end to our dry lot.  When everyone is friendly with each other and the ground is safe outside we just leave the gates open and they can come and go.  Right now we are rotating 2 in and 2 out as we introduce a new horse and wait for the 2 jerks to get their shoes pulled for winter in a few weeks, then all 4 will be together.


i really like this setup compared to stalls.  If we had to lock one up for say an injury, we could do it easily with a couple panels across a run.  I like that they have fresh air and can move around at their leisure. We also do our run cleaning with a skidloader which makes it quick.  


We have auto wateters - I love them for the most part, way nicer in the winter and nice knowing they always have water.  We’ve been fortunate to not need to monitor water intake on anything, but again they’re set up in such a way we could if we needed to put up a panel to prevent one from reaching the waterer and hang buckets.


 


i would like a water hydrant in the barn, but we have water close by in the shop.  


If I could add anything it would probably be a small window AC unit on my tackroom to try and keep air moving and control the humidity a little better, we really fight mold on tack during some seasons.  I’m too cheap to buy a dehumidifier, maybe next year.



how do you have a barn with no water?


 


 


Window units are cheap and work well. I have one with a thermostat that stays at like 80 degrees, it runs enough to keep moisture down but doesn't run all day. 


 


 


Haven't had water line to my barn as long as it's been there.  PITB but gotta do what you gotta do!!

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MOGirl07
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2019-10-04 8:39 PM
Subject: RE: Barns! Ideas and all the do's and don'ts



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OhMax - 2019-10-04 1:47 PM


MOGirl07 - 2019-10-04 10:56 AM


OhMax - 2019-10-04 10:05 AM


We are in Iowa but still have our barn open on the south side - it’s also naturally protected by a hill.  We have long runs instead of stalls. About 2/3 under roof and 1/3 outside then a gate on the end to our dry lot.  When everyone is friendly with each other and the ground is safe outside we just leave the gates open and they can come and go.  Right now we are rotating 2 in and 2 out as we introduce a new horse and wait for the 2 jerks to get their shoes pulled for winter in a few weeks, then all 4 will be together.


i really like this setup compared to stalls.  If we had to lock one up for say an injury, we could do it easily with a couple panels across a run.  I like that they have fresh air and can move around at their leisure. We also do our run cleaning with a skidloader which makes it quick.  


We have auto wateters - I love them for the most part, way nicer in the winter and nice knowing they always have water.  We’ve been fortunate to not need to monitor water intake on anything, but again they’re set up in such a way we could if we needed to put up a panel to prevent one from reaching the waterer and hang buckets.


 


i would like a water hydrant in the barn, but we have water close by in the shop.  


If I could add anything it would probably be a small window AC unit on my tackroom to try and keep air moving and control the humidity a little better, we really fight mold on tack during some seasons.  I’m too cheap to buy a dehumidifier, maybe next year.



To the OP, sorry to ask a second question on your thread But OhMax, I'd be interested in pics of your set up. Long indoor/outdoor runs are more appealing to us also but I can't seem tim envision it in my head.



No problem! I grew up boarding in stall barns, so this was a new setup to me too.  My in-laws (the trees behind the hay bales are the edge of their place) have the same setup and I really like it.


Thats the best picture I’ve got right now.  The 4 runs span 60’ of barn so each one is give or take 15’ wide.  Originally I had said 2/3 under roof but looking at the picture its probably closer to 50/50.  The white downspout is the end of the original barn, since this picture was taken we’ve added on and the roofline now extends out all the way in the last run.  The 3rd and 4th have about 8 less ft under roof because we have a garage door on the west end where we back our hay trailer in to unload into the loft and then store the baler and other hay equipment.


The dry lot extends to the left of the picture i’d say another 60’ to the fenceline of our cattle pasture - there was an existing waterer there when we built out the barn so we split off that waterline and came up to these waterers.


It’s a little bit of a hodge podge, we’ve built it all ourselves since the original barn was moved.  The plan is to build and indoor arena with a similar run setup off a lean where the haybales are, reusing all the pipe here and then completely enclosing this barn and using it for hay and to get some of our equipment out of the weather as our business expands (hopefully).



 


 


Thanks, OhMax! This is really helpful. We are thinking run in style like this too, but the indoor part of each horses space being roughly 15x15 and then a run out the back of each about 15x60.

 

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chasendacash
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2019-10-05 12:36 AM
Subject: RE: Barns! Ideas and all the do's and don'ts


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I love my dirt floors.  I hate sweeping and cleaning concrete - and the time it takes....  So the only concrete in my barn is the wash rack and feed room.  I love my trailer under cover and I can load horses out of the weather.  My barn has a center alley with 4 12x12 'stalls' on each side, then wings (lean-to) on each side also.  On the west side#1 is a stall, #2 is 12x12 feed/tack room, #3 is the wash rack #4 is a stall.  The wash rack is open to the alley and the wing and that's how we get to and from the trailer.  I love that my feed room is close to center of the barn.  That extra 12 feet is handier than you think.  Water faucet is right in the middle.  Lots of storage above the feedroom and under the wings.  I also have an extra gate that I can swing across the alley and make the alley into two more pens or use the alley as a run yet keep the pasture horses from picking a fight over the gate at the back of the barn.

 

Don'ts - I forgot I was in Texas.  I forgot I had rodeo horses, not show horses.  I made it too closed up.  It's hot in the summer and summer is about 9 months of the year here.  I should have left the east wall open to runs.  I should have left about 2 feet open at the top of the east and west side walls for ventilation since I have the 14ft wings on each side.  I shouldn't have made the stall walls solid all the way up, horses need air and to be able to see their surroundings.  I shouldn't have let the builder put the stall doors 'side by side', they should all be spaced apart so the two 'neighbors' aren't picking fights just because they can touch each other.        

 

Next barn - more electrical plugs for fans/clippers/tools when repairing all the crap horses tear up, more lights inside, outside and under wings, wire panels for top of stall fronts and divider walls. 

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NipntuckLR
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2019-10-05 9:56 AM
Subject: RE: Barns! Ideas and all the do's and don'ts



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I would never have a barn without stalls that open to pens.  My horses almost never even go potty in their stalls, so no need to buy a bunch of bedding.  That is a huge expense and so much better for the horses to have more room to walk around.

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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2019-10-05 11:22 AM
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Chandler's Mom - 2019-10-04 6:36 PM


1DSoon - 2019-10-04 12:16 PM


OhMax - 2019-10-04 11:05 AM


We are in Iowa but still have our barn open on the south side - it’s also naturally protected by a hill.  We have long runs instead of stalls. About 2/3 under roof and 1/3 outside then a gate on the end to our dry lot.  When everyone is friendly with each other and the ground is safe outside we just leave the gates open and they can come and go.  Right now we are rotating 2 in and 2 out as we introduce a new horse and wait for the 2 jerks to get their shoes pulled for winter in a few weeks, then all 4 will be together.


i really like this setup compared to stalls.  If we had to lock one up for say an injury, we could do it easily with a couple panels across a run.  I like that they have fresh air and can move around at their leisure. We also do our run cleaning with a skidloader which makes it quick.  


We have auto wateters - I love them for the most part, way nicer in the winter and nice knowing they always have water.  We’ve been fortunate to not need to monitor water intake on anything, but again they’re set up in such a way we could if we needed to put up a panel to prevent one from reaching the waterer and hang buckets.


 


i would like a water hydrant in the barn, but we have water close by in the shop.  


If I could add anything it would probably be a small window AC unit on my tackroom to try and keep air moving and control the humidity a little better, we really fight mold on tack during some seasons.  I’m too cheap to buy a dehumidifier, maybe next year.



how do you have a barn with no water?


 


 


Window units are cheap and work well. I have one with a thermostat that stays at like 80 degrees, it runs enough to keep moisture down but doesn't run all day. 


 


 



Haven't had water line to my barn as long as it's been there.  PITB but gotta do what you gotta do!!


I dont have water at my barn either.... I drag a long hose from the house to the barn, daily.... I cuss, daily... but i do have electricity lol!  

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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2019-10-05 11:53 AM
Subject: RE: Barns! Ideas and all the do's and don'ts



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want2chase3 - 2019-10-05 11:22 AM


Chandler's Mom - 2019-10-04 6:36 PM


1DSoon - 2019-10-04 12:16 PM


OhMax - 2019-10-04 11:05 AM


We are in Iowa but still have our barn open on the south side - it’s also naturally protected by a hill.  We have long runs instead of stalls. About 2/3 under roof and 1/3 outside then a gate on the end to our dry lot.  When everyone is friendly with each other and the ground is safe outside we just leave the gates open and they can come and go.  Right now we are rotating 2 in and 2 out as we introduce a new horse and wait for the 2 jerks to get their shoes pulled for winter in a few weeks, then all 4 will be together.


i really like this setup compared to stalls.  If we had to lock one up for say an injury, we could do it easily with a couple panels across a run.  I like that they have fresh air and can move around at their leisure. We also do our run cleaning with a skidloader which makes it quick.  


We have auto wateters - I love them for the most part, way nicer in the winter and nice knowing they always have water.  We’ve been fortunate to not need to monitor water intake on anything, but again they’re set up in such a way we could if we needed to put up a panel to prevent one from reaching the waterer and hang buckets.


 


i would like a water hydrant in the barn, but we have water close by in the shop.  


If I could add anything it would probably be a small window AC unit on my tackroom to try and keep air moving and control the humidity a little better, we really fight mold on tack during some seasons.  I’m too cheap to buy a dehumidifier, maybe next year.



how do you have a barn with no water?


 


 


Window units are cheap and work well. I have one with a thermostat that stays at like 80 degrees, it runs enough to keep moisture down but doesn't run all day. 


 


 



Haven't had water line to my barn as long as it's been there.  PITB but gotta do what you gotta do!!



I dont have water at my barn either.... I drag a long hose from the house to the barn, daily.... I cuss, daily... but i do have electricity lol!  


We have electricity too--woo hoo!!   We haul water to our barn in 1000 gal water tank from about half mile at one of our shops.  It's awful in the winter when it's muddy and/or frozen.  Barn has been there since 1999, so I guess we deal with it pretty good considering.  WAAAY less than ideal, but it's my only option. . . 

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MOGirl07
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2019-10-05 12:02 PM
Subject: RE: Barns! Ideas and all the do's and don'ts



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Chandler's Mom - 2019-10-05 11:53 AM


want2chase3 - 2019-10-05 11:22 AM


Chandler's Mom - 2019-10-04 6:36 PM


1DSoon - 2019-10-04 12:16 PM


OhMax - 2019-10-04 11:05 AM


We are in Iowa but still have our barn open on the south side - it’s also naturally protected by a hill.  We have long runs instead of stalls. About 2/3 under roof and 1/3 outside then a gate on the end to our dry lot.  When everyone is friendly with each other and the ground is safe outside we just leave the gates open and they can come and go.  Right now we are rotating 2 in and 2 out as we introduce a new horse and wait for the 2 jerks to get their shoes pulled for winter in a few weeks, then all 4 will be together.


i really like this setup compared to stalls.  If we had to lock one up for say an injury, we could do it easily with a couple panels across a run.  I like that they have fresh air and can move around at their leisure. We also do our run cleaning with a skidloader which makes it quick.  


We have auto wateters - I love them for the most part, way nicer in the winter and nice knowing they always have water.  We’ve been fortunate to not need to monitor water intake on anything, but again they’re set up in such a way we could if we needed to put up a panel to prevent one from reaching the waterer and hang buckets.


 


i would like a water hydrant in the barn, but we have water close by in the shop.  


If I could add anything it would probably be a small window AC unit on my tackroom to try and keep air moving and control the humidity a little better, we really fight mold on tack during some seasons.  I’m too cheap to buy a dehumidifier, maybe next year.



how do you have a barn with no water?


 


 


Window units are cheap and work well. I have one with a thermostat that stays at like 80 degrees, it runs enough to keep moisture down but doesn't run all day. 


 


 



Haven't had water line to my barn as long as it's been there.  PITB but gotta do what you gotta do!!



I dont have water at my barn either.... I drag a long hose from the house to the barn, daily.... I cuss, daily... but i do have electricity lol!  



We have electricity too--woo hoo!!   We haul water to our barn in 1000 gal water tank from about half mile at one of our shops.  It's awful in the winter when it's muddy and/or frozen.  Barn has been there since 1999, so I guess we deal with it pretty good considering.  WAAAY less than ideal, but it's my only option. . . 


I don't have electric in my horse barn (that needs torn down quite frankly). It's a huge pain in the rear. 

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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2019-10-05 1:15 PM
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i built a 100x 70 16 tall    5 stalls plenty of room for truck trailer  tractor hay ... it had 3 sideon on 1 25/ section where the stalls were but  i never kept horse in stall but infrequently  i bought a place before that that the barn was shaped like a t  16 stalls  feed room was rack it was awesome loved it  the alley way was 10 wide  roll up doors love that barn, water was thu out the barn  

 

my son and i we ditchwitch 3 miles of water line at out our farms before i broke my neck and no more horses

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