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Gastric Ulcers fix it with forage

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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-09-18 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: Gastric Ulcers fix it with forage



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Douglas J Gordon - 2014-09-18 1:54 PM Interesting article but the sources in the article make it suspect Standlee Premium Western Forage®

Of course they will promote that type of feeding.  The other source posted in the posts is the same source.

I am a grain feeder.  All mares 2 gallons of my custom grain mix14 % protein per day 12 months of the year.  Babies work their way up to 3 gallons in their yearling year getting ready to go to the track.  All the hay they want to eat.  Of course some hay is wasted.
  I am not a big supplement feeder though.


 

I can understand that, yes, Standlee is going to promote what they sell.  However, to me, commonsense says that the more "natural" feed that a horse gets - i.e., forage, the better off they are going to be.  Standlee is just promoting their forage.  As with any forage, check the source and the quality.  At our home, we do pasture analysis, etc., and don't feed alfalfa because it is so costly.  We feed perinneal peanut hay which is comparable.   
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TwistedK
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2014-09-18 1:09 PM
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I'm a firm believer in free choice hay. Mine have a bermuda round bale at all times, even when there is grass. I also supplement with timothy pellets in the am and safe choice in the pm. If they seem stressed I will feed a prebiotic as opposed to a probiotic and they get a vitamin/mineral.
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kmcsunshine
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-09-18 7:12 PM
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Douglas J Gordon - 2014-09-18 12:54 PM Interesting article but the sources in the article make it suspect Standlee Premium Western Forage®

Of course they will promote that type of feeding.  The other source posted in the posts is the same source.

I am a grain feeder.  All mares 2 gallons of my custom grain mix14 % protein per day 12 months of the year.  Babies work their way up to 3 gallons in their yearling year getting ready to go to the track.  All the hay they want to eat.  Of course some hay is wasted.
  I am not a big supplement feeder though.


 

Help me out here.  A gallon is a measurement for liquids.  Grain must be fed by weight not by volume, so how does one feed a gallon of grain?

I feed each horse as an indivudual, but there is no getting around the fact that God designed them to eat forage regardless of the source of this particular research. 
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SC Wrangler
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2014-09-18 8:20 PM
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kmcsunshine - 2014-09-18 7:12 PM
Douglas J Gordon - 2014-09-18 12:54 PM Interesting article but the sources in the article make it suspect Standlee Premium Western Forage®

Of course they will promote that type of feeding.  The other source posted in the posts is the same source.

I am a grain feeder.  All mares 2 gallons of my custom grain mix14 % protein per day 12 months of the year.  Babies work their way up to 3 gallons in their yearling year getting ready to go to the track.  All the hay they want to eat.  Of course some hay is wasted.
  I am not a big supplement feeder though.


 
Help me out here.  A gallon is a measurement for liquids.  Grain must be fed by weight not by volume, so how does one feed a gallon of grain?



I feed each horse as an indivudual, but there is no getting around the fact that God designed them to eat forage regardless of the source of this particular research. 

I will never get the need for arguring over feeding by weight vs volume. As long as you are bright enough to figure out how much of a particular feed is required for a particular horse what does it really matter.  The end result will be the same if you get the job done properly.  If the horse is healthy, looks, feel, performs well you are most likely hitting the target.  The biggest mistakes I see are people failing to provide constant roughage and trying to make rocket science where the KISS method will work.  

 
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Douglas J Gordon
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Posted 2014-09-19 12:12 AM
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kmcsunshine - 2014-09-18 7:12 PM
Douglas J Gordon - 2014-09-18 12:54 PM Interesting article but the sources in the article make it suspect Standlee Premium Western Forage®
Of course they will promote that type of feeding.  The other source posted in the posts is the same source.
I am a grain feeder.  All mares 2 gallons of my custom grain mix14 % protein per day 12 months of the year.  Babies work their way up to 3 gallons in their yearling year getting ready to go to the track.  All the hay they want to eat.  Of course some hay is wasted.
  I am not a big supplement feeder though.

 
Help me out here.  A gallon is a measurement for liquids.  Grain must be fed by weight not by volume, so how does one feed a gallon of grain?

I feed each horse as an indivudual, but there is no getting around the fact that God designed them to eat forage regardless of the source of this particular research. 
 Easy scoop a gallon of grain up into a can and dump it in the feeder!

Edited by Douglas J Gordon 2014-09-19 12:13 AM
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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-09-19 1:09 AM
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Douglas J Gordon - 2014-09-18 12:54 PM Interesting article but the sources in the article make it suspect Standlee Premium Western Forage®

Of course they will promote that type of feeding.  The other source posted in the posts is the same source.

I am a grain feeder.  All mares 2 gallons of my custom grain mix14 % protein per day 12 months of the year.  Babies work their way up to 3 gallons in their yearling year getting ready to go to the track.  All the hay they want to eat.  Of course some hay is wasted.
  I am not a big supplement feeder though.


 

 The white paper references might help clarify the sources of the information for you .   There are many other references regarding feeding of forage to help with gut issues    Not everything has to be treated with chemicals
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kmcsunshine
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-09-19 5:11 AM
Subject: RE: Gastric Ulcers fix it with forage



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Douglas J Gordon - 2014-09-19 12:12 AM
kmcsunshine - 2014-09-18 7:12 PM
Douglas J Gordon - 2014-09-18 12:54 PM Interesting article but the sources in the article make it suspect Standlee Premium Western Forage®

Of course they will promote that type of feeding.  The other source posted in the posts is the same source.

I am a grain feeder.  All mares 2 gallons of my custom grain mix14 % protein per day 12 months of the year.  Babies work their way up to 3 gallons in their yearling year getting ready to go to the track.  All the hay they want to eat.  Of course some hay is wasted.
  I am not a big supplement feeder though.


 
Help me out here.  A gallon is a measurement for liquids.  Grain must be fed by weight not by volume, so how does one feed a gallon of grain?



I feed each horse as an indivudual, but there is no getting around the fact that God designed them to eat forage regardless of the source of this particular research. 
 Easy scoop a gallon of grain up into a can and dump it in the feeder!

So do you use a gallon milk jug or what? 
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-09-19 5:45 AM
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SG. - 2014-09-19 1:09 AM
Douglas J Gordon - 2014-09-18 12:54 PM Interesting article but the sources in the article make it suspect Standlee Premium Western Forage®

Of course they will promote that type of feeding.  The other source posted in the posts is the same source.

I am a grain feeder.  All mares 2 gallons of my custom grain mix14 % protein per day 12 months of the year.  Babies work their way up to 3 gallons in their yearling year getting ready to go to the track.  All the hay they want to eat.  Of course some hay is wasted.
  I am not a big supplement feeder though.


 
 The white paper references might help clarify the sources of the information for you .   There are many other references regarding feeding of forage to help with gut issues    Not everything has to be treated with chemicals

 Absolutely, feed horses as they were intended to eat which is forage first. Google it, there are volumes of research on this subject.  
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daisycake123
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2014-09-19 5:53 AM
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I will say about 5 years ago i got some cheap alfalfa. my husband found some hay on craiglist i went to get it it was 80lb bales of alfalfa. I did away with grain with my mare. And it was winter and never thought but i was at the barn with the farrier and noticed my mare was not cribbing and this is before all the ulcer information that we have now. It really helped her then i knew cribbing and ulcers go hand and hand.
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Mainer-racer
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2014-09-19 8:13 AM
Subject: RE: Gastric Ulcers fix it with forage



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I actually book marked the page because it is so long, it was very interesting on ulcers.  http://www.drkerryridgway.com/articles/article-ulcers.php
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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-09-19 9:57 AM
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Mainer-racer - 2014-09-19 8:13 AM I actually book marked the page because it is so long, it was very interesting on ulcers.  http://www.drkerryridgway.com/articles/article-ulcers.php

Thank you
 
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