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| Wanted to add that my husband runs a huge construction company that builds apartments all over the US. The toughest part of his job is keeping jobs on schedule because subs cannot find qualified labor. There are jobs out there if people are willing to do manual labor. |
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Location: Phoenix | The second they start redistributing the wealth, out the window goes our hard work ethic, our drive to move forward, create new things, be creative, be innovative....what a great agenda for mediocrity!!! It's disgusting..... |
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| Where you are located is going to play a large factor into your earning ability for each career path. The absolute best advice grads can get is to look at the local job market (or where they would like to live) and find a degree that will be marketable. My husband makes a LOT more than I do even though we both have AAS degrees which is great because we wouldn't be able to afford squat off what I make. It's my own fault for not getting a more focused degree and I really should have just gone for the four year off the bat but it is what it is.
On the other hand he puts in a ton of hours in less than favorable conditions and I want the job I can pack up at quiting time and take care of stuff at home. I don't think many couples can do it where they both work high stress, extended hour jobs and still have livestock and a home life.
I think the majority that make good money around here are small business owners no matter which industry and farmers which is one in the same. So that in mind I am debating going back to get my BS in accounting and open my own business with a focus on Ag/Equine. |
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Location: Phoenix | rodeomom3 - 2014-01-07 10:57 AM Wanted to add that my husband runs a huge construction company that builds apartments all over the US. The toughest part of his job is keeping jobs on schedule because subs cannot find qualified labor. There are jobs out there if people are willing to do manual labor.
Something that comes to mind with this is 2 things.
i just read a Blog where this parent was paying below average prices for babysitting, because that's all he could afford. Babysitters were wanting like $15/hour. Minimum wage isn't $15/hour in most states. Parents paying this premium for child care is discouraging teens from getting a job where they have to work hard because it doesn't pay as much!
A big issue in WA/CA is the fast food workers wanting upwards of $15/hour so they can support themselves. If they award this.....what bullsh!t. They can't even get my order right!! |
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| hammer_time - 2014-01-07 1:27 PM The second they start redistributing the wealth, out the window goes our hard work ethic, our drive to move forward, create new things, be creative, be innovative....what a great agenda for mediocrity!!! It's disgusting.....
Watch this clip from economist Milton Freidman-explains it very well:http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A0oG7jMKV8xStzsAPhdx.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTB1bG1iOHU5BHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA1BSRFVTMDFfMQ--?p=economics+milton+friedman+on+phil+donahue&tnr=21&vid=5B5E8D94415D47C508865B5E8D94415D47C50886&l=144&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DU.4751553620084892%26pid%3D15.1&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DRWsx1X8PV_A&sigr=11a83piio&tt=b&tit=Milton+Friedman+-+Greed&sigt=10n88gubm&back=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fmobile%2Fs%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3Deconomics%2Bmilton%2Bfriedman%2Bon%2Bphil%2Bdonahue%26fr%3Donesearch%26first%3D1%26_tsrc%3Dapple&sigb=13m4shhoe |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | hammer_time - 2014-01-07 1:32 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-01-07 10:57 AM Wanted to add that my husband runs a huge construction company that builds apartments all over the US. The toughest part of his job is keeping jobs on schedule because subs cannot find qualified labor. There are jobs out there if people are willing to do manual labor. Something that comes to mind with this is 2 things.
i just read a Blog where this parent was paying below average prices for babysitting, because that's all he could afford. Babysitters were wanting like $15/hour. Minimum wage isn't $15/hour in most states. Parents paying this premium for child care is discouraging teens from getting a job where they have to work hard because it doesn't pay as much!
A big issue in WA/CA is the fast food workers wanting upwards of $15/hour so they can support themselves. If they award this.....what bullsh!t. They can't even get my order right!!
Being from the food industry I disagree with the last part of your comment. I think it is a double edged sword where there is no incentive to do well at a job that everyone comments on a LOW wage- NO education needed ect.. I mean if there is no oppurtunity for advancement WHY would anyone work in fast food?? These people ARE working and make such LOW wages for their area that they are STILL subsidized by the government because they fall BELOW the poverty level with those wages. So why work?? And personally I think you can do ANY JOB WITH HONOR but I want the person serving my FOOD to do it right. I think these corporate giants can pay them more but will not unless make to do so or until everyone refuses to work for $8 an hour. Or they can close their doors.
Its almost like the manual labor mentioned above (or lack there of), this generation will not have many that dig ditches except for the illegal immigrants. I mean should a person that digs ditches or cleans human $hit make more than the person that cooks your food? But yet a plumbers helper makes that $15 an hour. And they are not looked down upon as the food industry folks are. |
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| TurnLane - 2014-01-07 3:06 PM hammer_time - 2014-01-07 1:32 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-01-07 10:57 AM Wanted to add that my husband runs a huge construction company that builds apartments all over the US. The toughest part of his job is keeping jobs on schedule because subs cannot find qualified labor. There are jobs out there if people are willing to do manual labor. Something that comes to mind with this is 2 things.
i just read a Blog where this parent was paying below average prices for babysitting, because that's all he could afford. Babysitters were wanting like $15/hour. Minimum wage isn't $15/hour in most states. Parents paying this premium for child care is discouraging teens from getting a job where they have to work hard because it doesn't pay as much!
A big issue in WA/CA is the fast food workers wanting upwards of $15/hour so they can support themselves. If they award this.....what bullsh!t. They can't even get my order right!!
Its almost like the manual labor mentioned above (or lack there of), this generation will not have many that dig ditches except for the illegal immigrants. I mean should a person that digs ditches or cleans human $hit make more than the person that cooks your food? But yet a plumbers helper makes that $15 an hour. And they are not looked down upon as the food industry folks are.
I personally do not know anyone who only works a 40 hour week and makes decent money. The first years of our marriage my husband only made 30K a year but he still put in 12 hours days, I stayed at home with 4 kids, we were broke as you can be. He understood that to advance he had to put in the time and effort and a 40 hour work week was not going to cut it.
I don't mind subsidizing someone who is working but still needs help because they do not make enough. Being employed is the first step out of poverty. Benefits need to be used as incentives to find work and keep it. It is very troubling to me though that I never hear from the other side that these low wage jobs are just stepping stones to better employment and right now you may have to put in more than 40 hours like the rest of us did.
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | No one wants to pay high prices for fast food. The margin on fast food is pretty slim (margin = profit). The margin on all restaurants is pretty darn slim. That's why wait staff has to live off tips. If wages for fast food workers go up, cost of fast food goes up and people will stop buying fast food. It is very simple economics. I am certainly not going to pay $20 for a Happy Meal. Are you? |
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Location: Kansas | Saw the stats this morning on FOX.
We have 47.6 million people on food
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| rodeomom3 - 2014-01-07 12:57 PM
 Wanted to add that my husband runs a huge construction company that builds apartments all over the US. The toughest part of his job is keeping jobs on schedule  because subs cannot find qualified labor.  There are jobs out there  if people are willing to do manual labor.  Â
The problem is your husbands subcontractors hire more subs who in turn sub the work out again until all the fat white guys put the money in their pocket for doing next to nothing while paying illegals or temp workers as little as possible. |
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| Itsme - 2014-01-07 5:59 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-01-07 12:57 PM  Wanted to add that my husband runs a huge construction company that builds apartments all over the US. The toughest part of his job is keeping jobs on schedule  because subs cannot find qualified labor.  There are jobs out there  if people are willing to do manual labor.   The problem is your husbands subcontractors hire more subs who in turn sub the work out again until all the fat white guys put the money in their pocket for doing next to nothing while paying illegals or temp workers as little as possible.
 Not true, he didn't have this problem till the downturn in the economy causing construction to practically come to a halt.  The skilled labor went to work for the oil industry where they could still find jobs.  If the fat white guys were subbing it out to subs who were hiring cheap labor then the work would be getting done. Construction has picked back up and there are well paying jobs that cannot be filled.
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| rodeomom3 - 2014-01-07 6:07 PM
Itsme - 2014-01-07 5:59 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-01-07 12:57 PM  Wanted to add that my husband runs a huge construction company that builds apartments all over the US. The toughest part of his job is keeping jobs on schedule  because subs cannot find qualified labor.  There are jobs out there  if people are willing to do manual labor.   The problem is your husbands subcontractors hire more subs who in turn sub the work out again until all the fat white guys put the money in their pocket for doing next to nothing while paying illegals or temp workers as little as possible.
Good point with all the labor moving to the oilfield.
Ive ran big commercial projects and it seems our subs always have subs under them and that leads to everyone passing the "buck" so to speak. |
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