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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | horselover_jenn - 2014-03-28 1:11 PM To those that have tried the Ulcer Cure how long does it take for you to start noticing a difference? I am thinking about trying it. Also I see after you first do it that you go into "maintenance". Is there ever an end in sight on when they can go off it? Thanks.
After you dose for ulcers you can stop, but following up with maintenance is a good idea. If a horse is prone to get ulcers they will get them again. Many of my clients after they treat for ulcers then they just treat with maintenance just a day of so before they haul and while they are away racing.
Some treat for Ulcers and then stop and wait for symptoms to show again on a prone horse.
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Location: Arkansas | Thank you all for the comments and info! It has helped a lot.
When yall say "buffer the stomach", do you mean reduce acid production? Like someone said in a post that alfalfa buffers the stomach.
Would this mean that it would help more if I feed Alfalfa cubes with the ulcer treatment? |
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| Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-30 2:09 PM
Thank you all for the comments and info! It has helped a lot.
When yall say "buffer the stomach", do you mean reduce acid production? Like someone said in a post that alfalfa buffers the stomach.
Would this mean that it would help more if I feed Alfalfa cubes with the ulcer treatment?
You need the buffer with the omeprazole so it can pass into the intestine to be absorbed.
Yes alfalfa will help to reduce the acid in the stomach it is a natural buffer, but alfalfa alone will not cure ulcers.
The other thing that will help prevent ulcers is to get rid of highly fermentable foods such as whole oats, feed more fat such as flax (remember everything in moderation)
Also try and keep hay in front of them at all times, horses were designed to constantly eat. |
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Location: Arkansas | cheryl makofka - 2014-03-30 2:22 PM Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-30 2:09 PM Thank you all for the comments and info! It has helped a lot.
When yall say "buffer the stomach", do you mean reduce acid production? Like someone said in a post that alfalfa buffers the stomach.
Would this mean that it would help more if I feed Alfalfa cubes with the ulcer treatment? You need the buffer with the omeprazole so it can pass into the intestine to be absorbed. Yes alfalfa will help to reduce the acid in the stomach it is a natural buffer, but alfalfa alone will not cure ulcers. The other thing that will help prevent ulcers is to get rid of highly fermentable foods such as whole oats, feed more fat such as flax (remember everything in moderation ) Also try and keep hay in front of them at all times, horses were designed to constantly eat.
Well I knew alfalfa wouldn't cure alone, but if it helps the omeprazole do its job, I am willing to try it.
Also, I am currently feeding Omolene 200 with 1/4c aloe vera and 1/4c Apple Cider Vinegar. If I remember correctly, the sugar in the sweet feed irritates the ulcers and makes them worse. So would it be more practical to just switch his feed to say SafeChoice or another pelleted feed with less sugar and starch? It would be hard to switch him over where I keep him now, so if it is absolutely neccessary for him to heal, I will do it. |
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| Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-30 2:33 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-03-30 2:22 PM Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-30 2:09 PM Thank you all for the comments and info! It has helped a lot.
When yall say "buffer the stomach", do you mean reduce acid production? Like someone said in a post that alfalfa buffers the stomach.
Would this mean that it would help more if I feed Alfalfa cubes with the ulcer treatment? You need the buffer with the omeprazole so it can pass into the intestine to be absorbed. Yes alfalfa will help to reduce the acid in the stomach it is a natural buffer, but alfalfa alone will not cure ulcers. The other thing that will help prevent ulcers is to get rid of highly fermentable foods such as whole oats, feed more fat such as flax (remember everything in moderation ) Also try and keep hay in front of them at all times, horses were designed to constantly eat.
Also, I am currently feeding Omolene 200 with 1/4c aloe vera and 1/4c Apple Cider Vinegar. If I remember correctly, the sugar in the sweet feed irritates the ulcers and makes them worse. So would it be more practical to just switch his feed to say SafeChoice or another pelleted feed with less sugar and starch? It would be hard to switch him over where I keep him now, so if it is absolutely neccessary for him to heal, I will do it.
He will heal with the omeprazole, the other stuff changing feeds, increasing fat, alfalfa this is all a preventative measure. I don't use aloe Vera, I use papaya puréed 1/4 cup daily as my vet found research articles stating papaya is clinically proven to cure ulcers, it is also a natural dewormer. It is more pricey then the aloe Vera but I find it works |
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Location: Arkansas | cheryl makofka - 2014-03-30 3:11 PM Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-30 2:33 PM cheryl makofka - 2014-03-30 2:22 PM Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-30 2:09 PM Thank you all for the comments and info! It has helped a lot.
When yall say "buffer the stomach", do you mean reduce acid production? Like someone said in a post that alfalfa buffers the stomach.
Would this mean that it would help more if I feed Alfalfa cubes with the ulcer treatment? You need the buffer with the omeprazole so it can pass into the intestine to be absorbed. Yes alfalfa will help to reduce the acid in the stomach it is a natural buffer, but alfalfa alone will not cure ulcers. The other thing that will help prevent ulcers is to get rid of highly fermentable foods such as whole oats, feed more fat such as flax (remember everything in moderation ) Also try and keep hay in front of them at all times, horses were designed to constantly eat.
Also, I am currently feeding Omolene 200 with 1/4c aloe vera and 1/4c Apple Cider Vinegar. If I remember correctly, the sugar in the sweet feed irritates the ulcers and makes them worse. So would it be more practical to just switch his feed to say SafeChoice or another pelleted feed with less sugar and starch? It would be hard to switch him over where I keep him now, so if it is absolutely neccessary for him to heal, I will do it. He will heal with the omeprazole, the other stuff changing feeds, increasing fat, alfalfa this is all a preventative measure. I don't use aloe Vera, I use papaya puréed 1/4 cup daily as my vet found research articles stating papaya is clinically proven to cure ulcers, it is also a natural dewormer. It is more pricey then the aloe Vera but I find it works
That's interesting... I may just add alfalfa to his feed and treat with omeprazole until Im able to switch his feed. Apparently the ulcercureotc has worked for others, so I will give it a try! |
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Location: Arkansas | Another question, will probiotics help an ulceric horse? Have yall tried the probios from tractor supply?? |
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| Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-30 8:01 PM
Another question, will probiotics help an ulceric horse? Have yall tried the probios from tractor supply??
Yes, it aids in producing the "good" bacteria to encourage healthier digestion. I used probios on an ulcer horse and he seemed to improve. |
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Location: Stillwater, OK | I would quit wasting my money on the prilosec and just go and buy some horse formulated omeprazole. If I remember correctly, it takes about 30 pills of prilosec to hit the horse dose. That is going to cost you more money than Ulcergard will run.
I did find a research article (which of course, I can't find again for you) about omeprazole and the Smart Pak Smart Gut Ultra (SGU). The paper found that when a horse was treated with ulcers and fed the SGU, there was a slightly increased efficiency of healing of the ulcers, however, the greatest effects of the SGU were noted after the omeprazole treatment ended. Horses fed SGU (during and after omeprazole treatment) were found to have been much less likely to have their ulcers reoccur while on SGU. The even bigger thing that I like about this SGU is that they offer their Colic Care guarantee. So basically, while your horse is on SGU, if they colic and require surgery, Smart Pak will give you $7500 towards your colic surgery! That is HUGE to me seeing as my horses are not insured! |
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Location: Bandera, TX | I just spent a bunch of money on ulcer meds yesterday: I got a few tubes of GastroGard to start her off and a tub of omeprazole. She will also get alfalfa for lunch now. In addition, I will probably start her on Succeed to treat her hind-gut in the next couple of weeks. What bugs me the most is that this horse has been on an ulcer preventative for the past 5 years, as well as a low starch diet.  |
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Location: Arkansas | I have ordered the Ulcercure OTC so its on the way and I went to TSC today and picked up some Dumor Alfalfa cubes and Probios, which I started feeding today. I went ahead and fed the alfalfa and probios an hour before his grain, just so I can start getting him in the routine of the Ulcercure. Plus I want to get the alfalfa in there to help slow acid production before he gets grain. I've read up on the digestive system and ulcers and have learned a lot!! Thanks again for all of yalls input! If there is anything else, please feel free to share! I realize there is so much that I have yet to learn.  |
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Location: Arkansas | GoMistyGo - 2014-03-31 10:52 AM I just spent a bunch of money on ulcer meds yesterday: I got a few tubes of GastroGard to start her off and a tub of omeprazole. She will also get alfalfa for lunch now. In addition, I will probably start her on Succeed to treat her hind-gut in the next couple of weeks. What bugs me the most is that this horse has been on an ulcer preventative for the past 5 years, as well as a low starch diet.
Oh I hope everything works out for you! It stinks when you try to prevent something like that and it happens anyways! |
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