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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Barrelhorsehelp1 - 2014-05-14 7:07 PM if hes hurting or could be hurting i dont understand why he onlyacts up when i run him at a show.. not at home, not in exhib, only when i know im about to make a real run.
I don't mean to be harsh ..... and your explanations are kind of convoluted and very hard to follow....BUT this statement makes me stand by my original statement......If there are no "pain" issues and the fact that you are having problems with another horse, it could very well be YOU........it is very easy for the rider to transmit mixed signals to the horse......Do you have any videos of your runs? |
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Location: Canada | Barrelhorsehelp1 - 2014-05-14 7:07 PM if hes hurting or could be hurting i dont understand why he onlyacts up when i run him at a show.. not at home, not in exhib, only when i know im about to make a real run.
If it ONLY happens when you make a competition run then the problem is likely you not the horse (sorry if that sounds harsh). If the horse can make runs at home and during exhibitions without an issue and only has a problem when it comes to a competition run where money/prizes are on the line then it's probably something you're doing different. It could be something simple but it's making all the difference.
My suggestion would be video your practice runs and then video your competition runs. Compare EVERYTHING and see what you are doing different. Have your trainer watch you and see if they can see the difference and hopefully you'll find what's changed and be able to start fixing it.
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 You get what you give
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Location: Texas | Some horses are able to keep it together until you ask them for all they have in the run.
If you are doing like you say, and not working him on the pattern at home, just riding- he has nothing to show you at home. If you aren't exhibitioning him… he has nothing to show you until you make your run.
I had a mare who was this same way. She would tough it out during our every day work outs, she would slow work fine, I could cruise her through fine… But when it came down to the real run, when I would ask her for everything, it would hurt too bad and she couldn't do it. I never run mine at home, and I never run in exhibitions. The only time I was pushing her hard enough was the run. Come to find out she had a stifle OCD.
It took 30 days at same trainer Rodeomom3 suggested, of her saying pick her up and go back to the vet- something is not right. I had paid her for 30 days of tuning, and it was enough consistent riding and work in a row to where she finally showed something in a lameness exam. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Sounds like your horse is sore. Id get to a good equine lameness vet. |
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 Not Afraid to Work
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| I agree, it sounds like this horse is sore or sour.... So you had some issues with him, turned him out and now are having an issue again? (just wanna make sure I am understanding).
A lot of ailments wont go away with just sitting in the pasture so he may have something sore and standing around didnt actually fix it. Time off IMO is more a mental break or an actual injury of some kinda as in tendon or something that requires rest to heal. Sore hocks, back, bad teeth, etc are not gonna get better without treatment.
I would guess he's got something going on. You can always post a video on here and see if people have any suggestions.
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Sock Snob
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| Talk to your trainer as he is very knowedgeable. Let them help you with you problem. You need to comunicate with your horse. When was the last times you had hismhocks done. Talk to bret and nicole you will find your answer.
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| If all else fails, switch him to the left!
Coming from experience with a similar issue... it's easy to blame the horse. But I was grabbing up at the reins causing mine to rear/lunge, then we both started anticipating it and coming off the turns. It's taken a while to correct but we've corrected. |
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Miracle in the Making
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| daisycake123 - 2014-05-15 7:04 AM Talk to your trainer as he is very knowedgeable. Let them help you with you problem. You need to comunicate with your horse. When was the last times you had hismhocks done. Talk to bret and nicole you will find your answer.
brett is as honest as they come and from what little i know of nicklp i would absolutely trust her.
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Location: My Own Little World | You said he had the habit before you turned him out. So I'm saying he hurts. I'd start with teeth and then get him to a lameness vet. Not all vets have an eye for these issues. Then, once you get him fixed, he's going to need to rebuild his confidence that you are not going to run him sore anymore. Then, you will need to take him to the good vet for regular checkups. It's not a one time fix all. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | If you are taking lessons from Nicole, then you need to be asking her! And Brett......
If you purchased the horse from him, and you take lessons from her, then they both know the horse. None of us know the horse. They are some top hands so they should be able to help |
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 I keep my butt inside
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Location: Weatherford, Texas | Where are you sitting for your turn. He may have been automatic and made up for you but now he isn't making up for your mistakes. If you are setting too early or dropping your outside rein etc then he will start to set for the turn too soon. If he doesn't want to hit it, he has to blow off the back and get out of position.
Post a video and we can probably see more. |
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 Lady Di
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Location: Oklahoma | casualdust07 - 2014-05-14 9:30 PM
Some horses are able to keep it together until you ask them for all they have in the run.
If you are doing like you say, and not working him on the pattern at home, just riding- he has nothing to show you at home. If you aren't exhibitioning him… he has nothing to show you until you make your run.
I had a mare who was this same way. She would tough it out during our every day work outs, she would slow work fine, I could cruise her through fine… But when it came down to the real run, when I would ask her for everything, it would hurt too bad and she couldn't do it. I never run mine at home, and I never run in exhibitions. The only time I was pushing her hard enough was the run. Come to find out she had a stifle OCD.
It took 30 days at same trainer Rodeomom3 suggested, of her saying pick her up and go back to the vet- something is not right. I had paid her for 30 days of tuning, and it was enough consistent riding and work in a row to where she finally showed something in a lameness exam.
When the OP said he was pulling out of the turn, I immediately thought "stifles". And if they need blistering, they won't get better with turnout....he may have had a slip and stretched one of the ligaments (I'd think maybe left side since you say that's the barrels he's having trouble with) and a loose stifle ligament typically only bothers them when they have to turn at speed, which is why he's probably acting up at shows. An internal blister is a pretty easy fix.....sometimes you have to do it more than once, but if it's OCD, that's not such an easy fix. I'd suggest you got to a really good lameness vet....ask Brett and Nicole who they use, and be prepared to drop some change, but I bet you find out the cause of his behavior. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | I guess you have already checked his teeth.. |
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