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Location: wherever my daughter's running | Thank you all for your suggestions and comments. I really appreciate them. I located, read and printed the States' RIght-To-Farm Statutes for the State of South Carolina. The document is in my folder I am taking with me. I will update with what I do find out the meeting. After I have more facts I plan to follow up on some of the other suggestions. From what I understand council members are getting a lot of calls concerning this. I have not heard back from my council member. :( |
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Knowledge is Power
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | My council member returned my call. The first reading was in Oct. 2013, second reading Nov. 2013. At that point for some reason it was to go back for judicial review. It passed in April 2014 and pretty much contains what was in my original post. Fine for not reporting livestock is 25.00 per head per number of days not reported. Lots of other stuff in it. SKM mentioned the State Right To Farm which he mentioned to me also. This may well make the ordiance null and void. Council has decided to not begin enforcement at this time and want to re/visit this. He was not at the meeting when the final reading was voted on. He also has re-written parts of this after meeting with mbrts of the local cattle end assoc. and others. |
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Location: Mississippi | If these are elected officials, I sure would let them know loud & clear that they will be replaced at the next election & this will be reversed. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | cruise - 2014-07-17 5:12 PM
My council member returned my call. The first reading was in Oct. 2013, second reading Nov. 2013. At that point for some reason it was to go back for judicial review. It passed in April 2014 and pretty much contains what was in my original post. Fine for not reporting livestock is 25.00 per head per number of days not reported. Lots of other stuff in it. SKM mentioned the State Right To Farm which he mentioned to me also. This may well make the ordiance null and void. Council has decided to not begin enforcement at this time and want to re/visit this. He was not at the meeting when the final reading was voted on. He also has re-written parts of this after meeting with mbrts of the local cattle end assoc. and others.
You can't just shove this under the table and ignore it... It needs to be voided so they can't use it later to slap someone down in a pinch.. |
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Location: stray dump capital of the world | You have to wonder where they will get the manpower to enforce this. Heck, my county can't keep up with animal control and strays. Are you in a small county? |
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Location: PNW | cruise - 2014-07-17 5:12 PM
My council member returned my call. The first reading was in Oct. 2013, second reading Nov. 2013. At that point for some reason it was to go back for judicial review. It passed in April 2014 and pretty much contains what was in my original post. Fine for not reporting livestock is 25.00 per head per number of days not reported. Lots of other stuff in it. SKM mentioned the State Right To Farm which he mentioned to me also. This may well make the ordiance null and void. Council has decided to not begin enforcement at this time and want to re/visit this. He was not at the meeting when the final reading was voted on. He also has re-written parts of this after meeting with mbrts of the local cattle end assoc. and others.
Did he give you a reason WHY they want to pass this? Other than just to take a giant leap over the "appropriate for government control" line. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | I looked at your county council meetings minutes. Please go back to the dates that he gave you and review what was said in those meetings. I can't do it on my phone. I had looked while I was at work. It might give you some insight. |
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Knowledge is Power
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | The part about livestock is being taken out of this ordinance. This was decided this afternoon after our current county supervisor sought legal advice from 2 law firms. Reasons had to do with just what SKM told me to look at - States' Right To Farm. I strongly encourage each of you to check your state's out and remember this in the event you find yourself in a similar situation. Supposedly this started in 2011 when 4 cows got out and were on our 4 lane road. Took lots of law enforcement several hours to get the gathered up. Owner lived in another county, had recently passed leaving no one to take care of situation. Reason ordinance passed to begin with was it was labeled as animal control which lead people to think it had to do with our animal shelter. We are a small county and do not have the capacity to carry out what was first written. Sure there may be more to this than I know about. Just glad it is being done away with and was not and will not be enforced. This got the attention of a few hundred people who will be following county council to see this is carried out. We were reminded at the meeting that elections are in November. :). Thank you again for your advice and concern.
Edited by cruise 2014-07-17 8:41 PM
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| I'm glad you looked into that and the information helped you. Most people don't realize there is a Right To Farm Act and it protects farmers and livestock owners from frivolous lawsuits. |
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Knowledge is Power
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | SKM - 2014-07-17 9:48 PM
I'm glad you looked into that and the information helped you. Most people don't realize there is a Right To Farm Act and it protects farmers and livestock owners from frivolous lawsuits.
Thank you so very, very much for telling me about this. I had no idea it existed. It is extremely valuable information. |
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| Just saw this on the 10 pm news. They never mentioned it at 6 pm. Just that they were going to start charging for exotic animals and certain kinds of dogs (viscous I believe). Glad to see it didn't happen. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | MissBlaze - 2014-07-17 9:12 PM
Just saw this on the 10 pm news. They never mentioned it at 6 pm. Just that they were going to start charging for exotic animals and certain kinds of dogs (viscous I believe). Glad to see it didn't happen.
Uh oh.... There ain't many dogs more vicious than a chihuahua or a JRT.... better get ready to pay extra for those!! |
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| Doesn't anyone remember APHIS requiring all animals including chickens etc etc to be reported all the time and they installed training programs for FFA and 4H kids and some kids could not show their animals due to not being on the APHIS program etc etc ..
APHIS and USDA went into hiding with all of this still as law and they are now coming out of the woodwork to enforce these laws they haven't been enforcing ... go do some googling to see what is coming in the future ... this is just a quick example ... pay attention to everything and then notice in the last portion nearly everything was changed just a little bit to make people think they had changed all the laws ...
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/newsroom/2012/12/pdf/traceability_final_r...
It is like this meeting in SC ... just venting meeting for citizens ... nothing will be really changed unless .... the whole place INSISTS THE ENTIRE LAW BE JUNKED AND ONE PLACED THAT INSURES THIS CRAP CAN NEVER HAPPEN .... these local politicians are working thru APHIS and USDA to start the ball rolling to do the same thing across the nation!!
Everytime the government is going to make everyone safer you know you are screwed ... this SC thing is over 4 loose cows while the other bigger rulings done by USDA and APHIS was for mad cow disease ... NOTHING BUT OVERREACH OF GOVERNMENT ...
Good luck SC ... if you don't get the entire law retracted it will surface again when they start arresting people for taking animals to the vet or sale barns etc etc etc ..
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Knowledge is Power
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | Since many of you were so helpful with this situation I thought I would share the article from our local newspaper concerning this ordinance. The picture of the crowd attending was made early before they had to start bringing out additional chairs and still there was standing room only when I got there at 7:00
http://www.uniondailytimes.com/news/home_top-news/5315119/Livestock-section-to-be-removed-from-county-ordinance
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Location: ND--it snows, it floods, it snows, it floods | I am guessing that with the EPA and the Clean Water Act and all that crap coming into play the county is trying to push some boundries OR they are gearing up to STOP larger feedlots and hog operations. Unfortunatly this is the climate of todays world and livestock people need to step up and band together. I'm sorry but horses are not pets in the general populations eye they are considered livestock. This may also be a step in trying to control breeding operations and/or puppy mills. |
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