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Location: North Dakota | scwebster - 2017-08-02 12:57 PM Im not saying you should just sign the persons name and send it in, but Im saying sign the persons name and send it in lol.
That's called forgery.
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Location: North MS | I had a similar situation- They have to send in a copy of the death certificate and then the heir has to sign the transfer papers. The horse became the legal heir's property upon death. |
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| LMS - 2017-08-01 2:18 PM
I have 4 horses I have in my name-all with transfers and bills of sale etc. I called AQHA and they told me what I had to do and it was done in no time. I've never understood why you wouldn't call them first and see what they say-it's not like this thing doesn't happen every day-an seriously the AQHA wants your money so they aren't going to make things impossible for you!
If you have transfers with the papers AQHA will have the papers changed into your name and you will have them back in 10 days or so. The problem is when there is NO transfer. I believe that is the case here. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Without stealing the thread, can someone tell me what to do if the last owner on the papers has died?... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | IRunOnFaith - 2017-08-03 12:27 PM Without stealing the thread, can someone tell me what to do if the last owner on the papers has died?...
Call AQHA I bet theres a way they would help you out.  |
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Location: North Dakota | IRunOnFaith - 2017-08-03 12:27 PM Without stealing the thread, can someone tell me what to do if the last owner on the papers has died?...
It's fine, there's just more paperwork. Call AQHA and they will tell you what you need to do. |
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| r_beau - 2017-08-03 10:24 AM scwebster - 2017-08-02 12:57 PM Im not saying you should just sign the persons name and send it in, but Im saying sign the persons name and send it in lol. That's called forgery.
Edited by scwebster 2017-08-03 1:53 PM
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Location: California | IRunOnFaith - 2017-08-03 10:27 AM
Without stealing the thread, can someone tell me what to do if the last owner on the papers has died?...
You have to get the heirs of the "property" to sign off on transfer, and I believe a death certificate. Also, if they want to, they can totally take your horse back without reimbursement. I had a similar situation and after a year finally got her papers. Will not do it again. |
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Location: California | I will say, if you have a transfer paper signed by the person whose name is on the papers, and then the person you bought the horse from fills out a transfer form, they can still transfer into your name. But you have to have the original transfer form filled out, along with additional "owners" filling out a transfer paper. And if memory serves correct, a copy of the bill of sale. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | *almost there* - 2017-08-04 10:22 AM IRunOnFaith - 2017-08-03 10:27 AM Without stealing the thread, can someone tell me what to do if the last owner on the papers has died?... You have to get the heirs of the "property" to sign off on transfer, and I believe a death certificate. Also, if they want to, they can totally take your horse back without reimbursement. I had a similar situation and after a year finally got her papers. Will not do it again.
I have a bill of sale but that is all... Surely a bill of sale would hold up court if they tried to take him back?
I don't believe they will. |
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Location: California | IRunOnFaith - 2017-08-04 9:55 AM *almost there* - 2017-08-04 10:22 AM IRunOnFaith - 2017-08-03 10:27 AM Without stealing the thread, can someone tell me what to do if the last owner on the papers has died?... You have to get the heirs of the "property" to sign off on transfer, and I believe a death certificate. Also, if they want to, they can totally take your horse back without reimbursement. I had a similar situation and after a year finally got her papers. Will not do it again.
I don't believe they will.
No because there is no proof the person you "purchased" the horse from ever legally owned the horse, so it makes it "stolen property" where the people on the papers could refuse signing and releasing the horse to you. |
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Location: California | *almost there* - 2017-08-04 1:32 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2017-08-04 9:55 AM *almost there* - 2017-08-04 10:22 AM IRunOnFaith - 2017-08-03 10:27 AM Without stealing the thread, can someone tell me what to do if the last owner on the papers has died?... You have to get the heirs of the "property" to sign off on transfer, and I believe a death certificate. Also, if they want to, they can totally take your horse back without reimbursement. I had a similar situation and after a year finally got her papers. Will not do it again.
I don't believe they will.
Or do you mean you have a bill of sale with the person whose name was on the papers? |
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Location: Kansas | IRunOnFaith - 2017-08-03 12:27 PM Without stealing the thread, can someone tell me what to do if the last owner on the papers has died?... If memory serves right, I believe you need to have a document from a will stating the horse was given to say a son/daughter etc. upon death, from there that individual is allowed to sign the transfer with copy attached? I believe that is what AQHA told me a few days ago. If they don't have that info, you're pretty much SOL
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | *almost there* - 2017-08-04 3:33 PM *almost there* - 2017-08-04 1:32 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-08-04 9:55 AM *almost there* - 2017-08-04 10:22 AM IRunOnFaith - 2017-08-03 10:27 AM Without stealing the thread, can someone tell me what to do if the last owner on the papers has died?... You have to get the heirs of the "property" to sign off on transfer, and I believe a death certificate. Also, if they want to, they can totally take your horse back without reimbursement. I had a similar situation and after a year finally got her papers. Will not do it again.
I don't believe they will. Or do you mean you have a bill of sale with the person whose name was on the papers?
The last, and only person on the papers is who I bought the horse from. There would be no tracking down every person on the papers. He is the only one listed.
I talked with AQHA. I am filling out paperwork for a transfer and a duplicate copy of the papers should the papers be misplaced by whomever AQHA can get in contact with for the original papers. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | hoofs_in_motion - 2017-08-04 3:42 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-08-03 12:27 PM Without stealing the thread, can someone tell me what to do if the last owner on the papers has died?... If memory serves right, I believe you need to have a document from a will stating the horse was given to say a son/daughter etc. upon death, from there that individual is allowed to sign the transfer with copy attached? I believe that is what AQHA told me a few days ago. If they don't have that info, you're pretty much SOL
I spoke with them and told them the situation. We are getting our ducks in a row. They are confident they can get the papers to me. Whether they be duplicate or original. |
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