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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2014-04-16 5:39 PM
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Bibliafarm - 2014-04-16 5:22 PM

Doug I wasnt implying your boy isnt cute.. I just hadΒ no idea that they raced them so young. I knew 3Β .. why someone would dislike my post isΒ quite funny.. Β never said shame on you or anything to that nature so i hope you didnt take it as such.

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FYI:
All of your race tracks have 2yo races ... TB's use the earnings as 2yo's to qualify a horse to get into the big $$$ 3yo races ... watch how this works with the Kentucky Derby ...

QH, Paints and Appy's big earning year is as 2yo's ... this is where the big $$$ futurities are and to run in a derby as a 3yo you must have been paid up in the same Futurity to enter the Derby which again you have to pay nomination fees, run a trial race to get in the top 10 to run in the derby two weeks later .. ..

There are some million dollar qh races that are by invitation only ... so your top runners regardless of age can still earn some big bucks ...

Here is an amazing example of an AQHA horse maintaining his speed and being pulled out of the breeding shed to go run another high dollar race even after having proved his earning power the previous years ......

PROSPECT TO THE TOP .... scroll down and look at his earnings up to 5 years old
http://www.stallionesearch.com/show_stallion.asp?horse=1089




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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2014-04-16 5:47 PM
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Bibliafarm - 2014-04-16 5:22 PM Doug I wasnt implying your boy isnt cute.. I just had no idea that they raced them so young. I knew 3 .. why someone would dislike my post is quite funny..  never said shame on you or anything to that nature so i hope you didnt take it as such.
************************************************************* ************************************************************* FYI: All of your race tracks have 2yo races ... TB's use the earnings as 2yo's to qualify a horse to get into the big $$$ 3yo races ... watch how this works with the Kentucky Derby ... QH, Paints and Appy's big earning year is as 2yo's ... this is where the big $$$ futurities are and to run in a derby as a 3yo you must have been paid up in the same Futurity to enter the Derby which again you have to pay nomination fees, run a trial race to get in the top 10 to run in the derby two weeks later .. .. There are some million dollar qh races that are by invitation only ... so your top runners regardless of age can still earn some big bucks ... Here is an amazing example of an AQHA horse maintaining his speed and being pulled out of the breeding shed to go run another high dollar race even after having proved his earning power the previous years ...... PROSPECT TO THE TOP .... scroll down and look at his earnings up to 5 years old http://www.stallionesearch.com/show_stallion.asp?horse=1089

thanks for the lesson in racing. 
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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-04-16 6:02 PM
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I hope you have xrayed this horses joints especially the knees. What is it's born on date?
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Douglas J Gordon
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2014-04-16 11:23 PM
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Bibliafarm - 2014-04-16 5:22 PM Doug I wasnt implying your boy isnt cute.. I just had no idea that they raced them so young. I knew 3 .. why someone would dislike my post is quite funny..  never said shame on you or anything to that nature so i hope you didnt take it as such.

I didn't take offense.  I just thought it was a valid observation about that u weren't aware that they ran so young.
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Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2014-04-16 11:32 PM
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Doug, he looks kind of small. 
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Douglas J Gordon
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2014-04-17 9:38 AM
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LRQHS - 2014-04-16 11:32 PM Doug, he looks kind of small. 

He isn't as big as the sales prep horses but he has beat them every time in speed works.  I don't know how fast he is with other horses but we will find out on April 26th, LOL
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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-04-17 9:55 AM
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What's are his times for his works?  What's his name?  I'd like to put him in my equibase stable.  I wouldn't be concerned about his size at all....i've seen alot of small horses be successful; I would be more concerned with his knees being closed.  Would I like to see him a little heavier/fatter, absolutely, but I know that sometimes these colts that are smaller and slighter made just don't look like those big ol mosters some trainers lead in the paddock.  Good luck with him and keep us posted! 
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Douglas J Gordon
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2014-04-17 10:30 AM
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Herbie - 2014-04-17 9:55 AM What's are his times for his works?  What's his name?  I'd like to put him in my equibase stable.  I wouldn't be concerned about his size at all....i've seen alot of small horses be successful; I would be more concerned with his knees being closed.  Would I like to see him a little heavier/fatter, absolutely, but I know that sometimes these colts that are smaller and slighter made just don't look like those big ol mosters some trainers lead in the paddock.  Good luck with him and keep us posted! 

Even though Utah's track is approved it is kind of a Bush track also.  This colt has never had a clock put on him.  Flying T Bugatti.  Sire: Genuine Strawfly.  Dam:  My Native Silver ( I bred the mare also).
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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-04-17 10:38 AM
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He should have to have an official work and/orschooling race and he'll have to get his gate card, which should also be an official work as well before they can put him in a race i'd think.  I'll put him in my stable so I can watch for his entries and results. 
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Douglas J Gordon
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2014-04-17 10:51 AM
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Herbie - 2014-04-17 10:38 AM He should have to have an official work and/orschooling race and he'll have to get his gate card, which should also be an official work as well before they can put him in a race i'd think.  I'll put him in my stable so I can watch for his entries and results. 

The official work is the "Bush" track part!  It is always interesting with some horses on opening day with all trials!  LOL
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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-04-17 10:56 AM
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Douglas J Gordon - 2014-04-17 10:51 AM
Herbie - 2014-04-17 10:38 AM He should have to have an official work and/orschooling race and he'll have to get his gate card, which should also be an official work as well before they can put him in a race i'd think.  I'll put him in my stable so I can watch for his entries and results. 
The official work is the "Bush" track part!  It is always interesting with some horses on opening day with all trials!  LOL

Things are lots different in Utah than they are here.  You can run em at the bush track all you want to but until they get an official work and get their gate card, they aren't eligible to run.  You also have an official work in the last (I think) 60 days to put a horse in even if he has had 10 puts.  Heck, even Ochoa has to have an official work to enter a race after having the winter off.  Good luck with your colt and keep us posted. 
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NonaY
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2014-04-17 11:25 AM
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Look up the TB Brown Bess.  My husband won the Yellow Ribbon with her and she was an Eciplse winning horse.  Jack said he could rest his elbow on her withers.  She was THAT small. 
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NonaY
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2014-04-17 11:29 AM
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Brown Bess was 15 hands and weighed 850 pounds.
 
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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-04-17 11:30 AM
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NonaY - 2014-04-17 11:25 AM Look up the TB Brown Bess.  My husband won the Yellow Ribbon with her and she was an Eciplse winning horse.  Jack said he could rest his elbow on her withers.  She was THAT small. 

Now THAT is awesome!!!!! 
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NonaY
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2014-04-17 11:47 AM
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To tell if a horse's knees are developed.  Look at the legs straight on and the inside of the knee joints.  In a baby thats knees are not fully developed, you will see the knees on the inside have a kind of roundness to them where as in a fully developed horse the knee joints on the inside are sharp and squared.  Know what I mean? 
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Douglas J Gordon
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2014-04-17 12:39 PM
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NonaY - 2014-04-17 11:29 AM Brown Bess was 15 hands and weighed 850 pounds.

 


Thanks for sharing!
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NonaY
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2014-04-17 2:10 PM
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My grey horse (QH) won his first race at 22 months old and not at a bush track but a legitimate one. 
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