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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-03-09 4:02 PM
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hammer_time - 2015-03-09 3:43 PM

 I'm very much a novice when it comes to oils...I've used Rescue remedy on myself in stressful situations.  My mom convinces me to take oregano oil when I'm sick and just got us a diffuser/steamer for essential oils.  Would love to know the names of the books if someone has links. 

The two I am reading now are
The Healing Intelligence of Essential Oils by Kurt Schnaubelt, Ph.D.
Integrated Guide To Essential Oils first edition
I bought these off of Amazon.
I like these books so far because they don't mention any brands or companies. I do really like the desk reference book for Young Living Oils that my sister has and the one DR. Shelton wrote for animals. I will be watching for her new one, too.
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-03-09 4:19 PM
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GLP - 2015-03-09 3:53 PM I was told to take a blend in my water but it really upset my stomach so I applied to my feet instead and it worked that way. I don't like taking my oils by ingestion but we are all so different. Also, if I don't dilute Thieves alot it burns. But I love to diffuse it or apply to my feet. That stuff smells so good to me. What I love about oils is that it is so individualistic. There are so many oils to use if one doesn't work for you. If one type of application doesn't work try another one. Nothing is cookie cutter with oils. I do have a question for you who use oils on your horses. Do you have to offer to them to smell first? My gelding is not very interested in them. But if I don't use a certain blend on his muzzle before getting on, he will turn his head back to me like he is asking if I forgot something. But if I rub it on his muzzle he doesn't do this. It kinda cracks me up. I watched several youtube videos that said you must ask the horse first if he likes the oil, but mine just shows little interest.

Interesting..
I use lemon, grapefruit, lime, orange and tangerine in my drinking water but tend to crave lemon. I feel it has helped me with some bladder issues.
I really don't care for the majority of how most oils smell except for the citrus ones. I was told it was because I have a lot of blockages and I sure can't argue with that as I know I do.
I also prefer diffusing and putting oils on the bottom of my feet.

I always let my animals smell the oils before I apply them. I watch for their response and if it isn't a good one I don't use that oil on them.
 
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-03-09 4:32 PM
Subject: RE: Raindrop Therapy


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Nevertooold - 2015-03-09 4:19 PM

GLP - 2015-03-09 3:53 PM I was told to take a blend in my water but it really upset my stomach so I applied to my feet instead and it worked that way. I don't like taking my oils by ingestion but we are all so different. Also, if I don't dilute Thieves alot it burns. But I love to diffuse it or apply to my feet. That stuff smells so good to me. What I love about oils is that it is so individualistic. There are so many oils to use if one doesn't work for you. If one type of application doesn't work try another one. Nothing is cookie cutter with oils. I do have a question for you who use oils on your horses. Do you have to offer to them to smell first? My gelding is not very interested in them. But if I don't use a certain blend on his muzzle before getting on, he will turn his head back to me like he is asking if I forgot something. But if I rub it on his muzzle he doesn't do this. It kinda cracks me up. I watched several youtube videos that said you must ask the horse first if he likes the oil, but mine just shows little interest.

Interesting..
I use lemon, grapefruit, lime, orange and tangerine in my drinking water but tend to crave lemon. I feel it has helped me with some bladder issues.
I really don't care for the majority of how most oils smell except for the citrus ones. I was told it was because I have a lot of blockages and I sure can't argue with that as I know I do.
I also prefer diffusing and putting oils on the bottom of my feet.

I always let my animals smell the oils before I apply them. I watch for their response and if it isn't a good one I don't use that oil on them.
 

Maybe he is trying to tell me to leave him alone, then, haha. He looks the best he has in years so I guess he is telling me he has no need for them at this time.
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Dinero10
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2015-03-09 4:53 PM
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GLP - 2015-03-09 3:53 PM I was told to take a blend in my water but it really upset my stomach so I applied to my feet instead and it worked that way. I don't like taking my oils by ingestion but we are all so different. Also, if I don't dilute Thieves alot it burns. But I love to diffuse it or apply to my feet. That stuff smells so good to me. What I love about oils is that it is so individualistic. There are so many oils to use if one doesn't work for you. If one type of application doesn't work try another one. Nothing is cookie cutter with oils. I do have a question for you who use oils on your horses. Do you have to offer to them to smell first? My gelding is not very interested in them. But if I don't use a certain blend on his muzzle before getting on, he will turn his head back to me like he is asking if I forgot something. But if I rub it on his muzzle he doesn't do this. It kinda cracks me up. I watched several youtube videos that said you must ask the horse first if he likes the oil, but mine just shows little interest.
yes, we would let Dinero smell the oils first. The ones that he really liked he would really try to reach for and try to get it. The ones
he didn't care for; he would turn away and not face me.   In addition, the ones he really liked he would stand and just lick his lips. AS we began the process, he was kinda high headed, by the time we were through he had dropped his head, and you could tell by looking in his eyes, he was very relaxed.  We also used a carrier oil for the hotter oils.

I love thrive - love the smell.   

The girl that I work with have used oils for a long time before they became popular like now.  She says on the ones you don't like, your body probably needs it. 


 

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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-03-09 7:27 PM
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Dinero10 - 2015-03-09 4:53 PM
GLP - 2015-03-09 3:53 PM I was told to take a blend in my water but it really upset my stomach so I applied to my feet instead and it worked that way. I don't like taking my oils by ingestion but we are all so different. Also, if I don't dilute Thieves alot it burns. But I love to diffuse it or apply to my feet. That stuff smells so good to me. What I love about oils is that it is so individualistic. There are so many oils to use if one doesn't work for you. If one type of application doesn't work try another one. Nothing is cookie cutter with oils. I do have a question for you who use oils on your horses. Do you have to offer to them to smell first? My gelding is not very interested in them. But if I don't use a certain blend on his muzzle before getting on, he will turn his head back to me like he is asking if I forgot something. But if I rub it on his muzzle he doesn't do this. It kinda cracks me up. I watched several youtube videos that said you must ask the horse first if he likes the oil, but mine just shows little interest.
yes, we would let Dinero smell the oils first. The ones that he really liked he would really try to reach for and try to get it. The ones

he didn't care for; he would turn away and not face me.   In addition, the ones he really liked he would stand and just lick his lips. AS we began the process, he was kinda high headed, by the time we were through he had dropped his head, and you could tell by looking in his eyes, he was very relaxed.  We also used a carrier oil for the hotter oils.



I love thrive - love the smell.   



The girl that I work with have used oils for a long time before they became popular like now.  She says on the ones you don't like, your body probably needs it. 




 

Well then I'm screwed since I don't like the way the majority of them smell and there is no way I would use them as just the smell of some of them makes me sick to my stomach and can give me an instant headache. 
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Dinero10
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2015-03-10 4:40 PM
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nevertooold - she feels the same way - their are some she just can't stand.  She does says her body probably does need it
but she doesn't like the way they smell.  
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-03-10 8:00 PM
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Dinero10 - 2015-03-10 4:40 PM nevertooold - she feels the same way - their are some she just can't stand.  She does says her body probably does need it

but she doesn't like the way they smell.  

Who makes thrive? 
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run n rate
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2015-03-10 11:05 PM
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I used a few oils on CC thru our process of deing with her bladder and kidneys stones. She reacted well to Francensense smelling it but she wanted it off and wanted it off NOW when applied. Had to wash it off. Tried one more time and got the same response and quit using that one. Did however use Zendrocrine , Lemon, and a mix from a board buddy called Stone Breaker. Gonna try some oils on my mare with trailering issues too.
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Dinero10
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2015-03-11 12:44 PM
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Nevertooold - 2015-03-10 8:00 PM
Dinero10 - 2015-03-10 4:40 PM nevertooold - she feels the same way - their are some she just can't stand.  She does says her body probably does need it

but she doesn't like the way they smell.  
Who makes thrive? 

Nevertooold - Young Living  
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Fawna Lee
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2015-03-11 2:13 PM
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Young Living oils are the only Essential Oils, that are the only, therapuetic grade oils. Safe to use orally, threw smell, or rectally. The Thieves cleaner, should be in every horse trailer. It is a big bottle and you dilute per instructions. I clean buckets, spray, inside the trailer, and especially, when we stay in stalls, spray them all over, put bedding in and spray again, especially where the bars, and gates are. If my horses get cough, snot or anything, they get three to five drops, on their feed twice a day, until resolved, usually a week. Also drink Theives, in milk for sore throat, etc, a couple times a day until gone, usually two days. Lavender for calming, for horses and children, put it on their feet. Peppermint for headaches, cools horses internally as well as people. dont get it close to your eyes.
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-03-11 2:46 PM
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Fawna Lee - 2015-03-11 2:13 PM

Young Living oils are the only Essential Oils, that are the only, therapuetic grade oils. Safe to use orally, threw smell, or rectally. The Thieves cleaner, should be in every horse trailer. It is a big bottle and you dilute per instructions. I clean buckets, spray, inside the trailer, and especially, when we stay in stalls, spray them all over, put bedding in and spray again, especially where the bars, and gates are. If my horses get cough, snot or anything, they get three to five drops, on their feed twice a day, until resolved, usually a week. Also drink Theives, in milk for sore throat, etc, a couple times a day until gone, usually two days. Lavender for calming, for horses and children, put it on their feet. Peppermint for headaches, cools horses internally as well as people. dont get it close to your eyes.

This not true, sigh, YL are not the only therapeutic grade essential oils, for the simple fact that term means nothing. There is no licensing or governing body for this classification. Several brands use this terminology. It is simply words used to distinguish them from the food and perfume oils and the lower quality oils like NOW. I use YL but I also use NAN/Rocky Mountain Oils and have not seen a difference in quality. YL does have a much larger selection. I have been contacted by a new EO company that is claiming they are "Clinical Grade Essential Oils" meaning the same purity and strength as the oils used in clinical studies. I have not bought any yet and am still researching their claims. However, Dr. Penoel has endorsed these oils. This all can be found by googling if any of you are interested.
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LMS
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2015-03-11 3:25 PM
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Fawna Lee - 2015-03-11 2:13 PM Young Living oils are the only Essential Oils, that are the only, therapuetic grade oils. Safe to use orally, threw smell, or rectally. The Thieves cleaner, should be in every horse trailer. It is a big bottle and you dilute per instructions. I clean buckets, spray, inside the trailer, and especially, when we stay in stalls, spray them all over, put bedding in and spray again, especially where the bars, and gates are. If my horses get cough, snot or anything, they get three to five drops, on their feed twice a day, until resolved, usually a week. Also drink Theives, in milk for sore throat, etc, a couple times a day until gone, usually two days. Lavender for calming, for horses and children, put it on their feet. Peppermint for headaches, cools horses internally as well as people. dont get it close to your eyes.

So we have used the lavendar for both horse and kid, the kid gets 2 drops (undiluted) she rubs her hands together spread lightly on horses muzzle and then on the back of her neck and close to her nose.  Have had some good results. Horse and kid doesn't seem to mind and have never lost any hair or had any reaction, do you think we should still dilute?? Or can we keep going the way we are
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-03-11 9:43 PM
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Fawna Lee - 2015-03-11 2:13 PM Young Living oils are the only Essential Oils, that are the only, therapuetic grade oils. Safe to use orally, threw smell, or rectally. The Thieves cleaner, should be in every horse trailer. It is a big bottle and you dilute per instructions. I clean buckets, spray, inside the trailer, and especially, when we stay in stalls, spray them all over, put bedding in and spray again, especially where the bars, and gates are. If my horses get cough, snot or anything, they get three to five drops, on their feed twice a day, until resolved, usually a week. Also drink Theives, in milk for sore throat, etc, a couple times a day until gone, usually two days. Lavender for calming, for horses and children, put it on their feet. Peppermint for headaches, cools horses internally as well as people. dont get it close to your eyes.

I disagree with this also. I have friends that use doTERRA and I'm signed up with YL and I trust both of them.

I just put an order in for YL the other day and I couldn't find Thrive. I stick with the oils and don't use any of the other products offered. 
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-03-11 9:45 PM
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LMS - 2015-03-11 3:25 PM
Fawna Lee - 2015-03-11 2:13 PM Young Living oils are the only Essential Oils, that are the only, therapuetic grade oils. Safe to use orally, threw smell, or rectally. The Thieves cleaner, should be in every horse trailer. It is a big bottle and you dilute per instructions. I clean buckets, spray, inside the trailer, and especially, when we stay in stalls, spray them all over, put bedding in and spray again, especially where the bars, and gates are. If my horses get cough, snot or anything, they get three to five drops, on their feed twice a day, until resolved, usually a week. Also drink Theives, in milk for sore throat, etc, a couple times a day until gone, usually two days. Lavender for calming, for horses and children, put it on their feet. Peppermint for headaches, cools horses internally as well as people. dont get it close to your eyes.
So we have used the lavendar for both horse and kid, the kid gets 2 drops (undiluted) she rubs her hands together spread lightly on horses muzzle and then on the back of her neck and close to her nose.  Have had some good results. Horse and kid doesn't seem to mind and have never lost any hair or had any reaction, do you think we should still dilute?? Or can we keep going the way we are

I'm very sensitive and I use Lavender and Lemon all the time and I have never had a problem using them full strength. I do dilute everything when I use them on my dogs. 
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Nevertooold
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This is what Melissa Shelton, DVM has posted and she is the one that wrote the ADR book.

Horses and NEAT oils

We learn more and more every single year.  Heck, I'd beg to offer that I learn something new every single day!  In years past, we applied many essential oils in a neat or undiluted fashion to most horses.  Maybe it was because "we could" more so than because "we should."  I certainly find this to be an accurate description of how our use of essential oils for animals has been changing for the better over the years.

Horses and Essential Oil "Welts"

Speaking of years past, we should touch on an important topic that we saw particularly with the over-use of essential oils, the use of "hot" essential oils, or with the use of neat essential oils.  Specifically the technique most commonly associated with the welting of the skin of an equid, typically over the back, was referred to as the "Raindrop Technique."  And, although I did find MANY benefits to this oil application for many of my patients and consults, it was often too intense and overwhelming to the body system - thus resulting in the welting of the skin.  Unfortunately, even my past recommendations of adding a carrier oil to the skin, AFTER or during the application of the neat essential oil, was just not an ideal situation.  Causing the irritation, then trying to "back peddle" and make it better - is really not the best approach.  Using oils that are already contained within a carrier oil, often prevents this welting situation, and we find creates a more significant and longer lasting response.
This beautiful, sweet rescue horse, had a typical neat application of essential oils, and proceeded to have quite a significant amount of welting and discomfort.  The horse would breath heavily, and also rolled on the ground multiple times after each stage of the oil application.  For me, I personally do not think that the process of healing or moving through emotional strife, should ever be complicated with more physical distress than one has to begin with.  If something "gets worse" from a treatment we provide - it is best to back off and reduce the amount or frequency of what we are doing.  Healing and health should never have to make us uncomfortable in the process of achieving it!

 
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GLP - 2015-03-09 3:53 PM I was told to take a blend in my water but it really upset my stomach so I applied to my feet instead and it worked that way. I don't like taking my oils by ingestion but we are all so different. Also, if I don't dilute Thieves alot it burns. But I love to diffuse it or apply to my feet. That stuff smells so good to me. What I love about oils is that it is so individualistic. There are so many oils to use if one doesn't work for you. If one type of application doesn't work try another one. Nothing is cookie cutter with oils. I do have a question for you who use oils on your horses. Do you have to offer to them to smell first? My gelding is not very interested in them. But if I don't use a certain blend on his muzzle before getting on, he will turn his head back to me like he is asking if I forgot something. But if I rub it on his muzzle he doesn't do this. It kinda cracks me up. I watched several youtube videos that said you must ask the horse first if he likes the oil, but mine just shows little interest.

Yes, I offer the horse two oils at once. Let him muzzle the bottle and and go with the oils that he took to smelling. If he was using the left nostril those oils go on first as that is a sign of emotional issues and they get treated first off emotionally then physcially. The oils I use by ingestion are mainly for stomach issues. I wait up to 20 seconds to see changes in the horse. Have you tried using a diffuser in your barn. Some just get the most content look to them after being in the barn wtih oils diffusing. 
 
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-03-12 8:35 AM
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uno-dos-tres! - 2015-03-12 1:55 AM

GLP - 2015-03-09 3:53 PM I was told to take a blend in my water but it really upset my stomach so I applied to my feet instead and it worked that way. I don't like taking my oils by ingestion but we are all so different. Also, if I don't dilute Thieves alot it burns. But I love to diffuse it or apply to my feet. That stuff smells so good to me. What I love about oils is that it is so individualistic. There are so many oils to use if one doesn't work for you. If one type of application doesn't work try another one. Nothing is cookie cutter with oils. I do have a question for you who use oils on your horses. Do you have to offer to them to smell first? My gelding is not very interested in them. But if I don't use a certain blend on his muzzle before getting on, he will turn his head back to me like he is asking if I forgot something. But if I rub it on his muzzle he doesn't do this. It kinda cracks me up. I watched several youtube videos that said you must ask the horse first if he likes the oil, but mine just shows little interest.

Yes, I offer the horse two oils at once. Let him muzzle the bottle and and go with the oils that he took to smelling. If he was using the left nostril those oils go on first as that is a sign of emotional issues and they get treated first off emotionally then physcially. The oils I use by ingestion are mainly for stomach issues. I wait up to 20 seconds to see changes in the horse. Have you tried using a diffuser in your barn. Some just get the most content look to them after being in the barn wtih oils diffusing. 
 

Let me tell you what do because I think I may be doing something wrong. When I offer him an oil, he may sniff it then turn his head away, come back sniff again and turn his head away. At that point I think he is rejecting it so I try another one. I only try 2 oils at a time. But I don't give him 20 seconds to decide, if after the second time he turns away I take that as a refusal. Am I just not giving him enough time to consider it? I also have a gelding that almost spooks when I offer him an oil. I assumed that was a big no, but should I give him more time too? He is a naturally suspicious horse.
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