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Location: Ky | Bear - 2019-12-11 3:32 PM
jd&ez - 2019-12-11 1:43 PM
OregonBR - 2019-12-11 1:08 PM
ctdrumrunr - 2019-12-11 10:54 AM
Just my 2 cents.
1- if any president is deemed impeachable, I would hope that his own party wouldn't protect him. They should be protecting the country.
2- if Trump has done anything impeachable you would think they would have indesputable evidence by now, with all the time and energy and money the Dems have spent trying to get rid of him.
All these hearing are ridicules and get no where
They can't find any proof of anything or he'd be impeached by now. They just keep searching for something that will stick. They won't find it because this president is the most investigated human being ever. They have nothing.
The evidence is overwhelming that trump was wrong. But he won't be convited. Trump coul attack ***** mcConnels wife in Times Square and ***** woul turn a blind eye.
Now maybe there were some first hand accounts that could have and should have been heard but Trump ordered them to not testify. Those are not the actions of an innocent man.
I could shred your remark to pieces, but I can see you are already too upset, based on the fact that it's barely readable. Maybe you were trembling too much with Trump-hate and rage to type properly. Next time try using spellcheck or proofread your comments and slow down a tad. You sound like an agitated fool with TDS.
Have at it. I'm not upset at all. That would seem to be you that's upset. Are you using what the GOP'ers call "projection"? But you're right, I don't use spellcheck when typing on a message board. If that bothers you then it's your problem, not mine. It doesn't bother me. I understand the right wingers have to make this about anything other than Trump because his actions can't stand the light of day. Regardless of what Dan Bongong, Laura Ingrate, Rush Dumbaugh and the rest have to say, they are wrong. Now you can go back to personal attacks since that's all you have. |
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  Champ
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | La La La La Did you say something? I've learned over the last 3 years not to engage with a liberal. They will make you as crazy as they are with their TDS level 6 rants. No facts. Just projection. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | jd&ez - 2019-12-11 3:46 PM
Bear - 2019-12-11 3:32 PM
jd&ez - 2019-12-11 1:43 PM
OregonBR - 2019-12-11 1:08 PM
ctdrumrunr - 2019-12-11 10:54 AM
Just my 2 cents.
1- if any president is deemed impeachable, I would hope that his own party wouldn't protect him. They should be protecting the country.
2- if Trump has done anything impeachable you would think they would have indesputable evidence by now, with all the time and energy and money the Dems have spent trying to get rid of him.
All these hearing are ridicules and get no where
They can't find any proof of anything or he'd be impeached by now. They just keep searching for something that will stick. They won't find it because this president is the most investigated human being ever. They have nothing.
The evidence is overwhelming that trump was wrong. But he won't be convited. Trump coul attack ***** mcConnels wife in Times Square and ***** woul turn a blind eye.
Now maybe there were some first hand accounts that could have and should have been heard but Trump ordered them to not testify. Those are not the actions of an innocent man.
I could shred your remark to pieces, but I can see you are already too upset, based on the fact that it's barely readable. Maybe you were trembling too much with Trump-hate and rage to type properly. Next time try using spellcheck or proofread your comments and slow down a tad. You sound like an agitated fool with TDS.
Have at it. I'm not upset at all. That would seem to be you that's upset. Are you using what the GOP'ers call "projection"? But you're right, I don't use spellcheck when typing on a message board. If that bothers you then it's your problem, not mine. It doesn't bother me.
I understand the right wingers have to make this about anything other than Trump because his actions can't stand the light of day. Regardless of what Dan Bongong, Laura Ingrate, Rush Dumbaugh and the rest have to say, they are wrong.
Now you can go back to personal attacks since that's all you have.
Fair enough. So let's agree to dispense with throwing barbs and get down to comparing your preferred candidate, among the 20+ who have declared, and Trump. How's that for starters? I won't hold my breath, because if past experience with you is my guide, you'll slither away and not engage. I hope I'm wrong. I'll start it off. Who is your candidate of choice and why is he/she better than DJT? |
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| TrailGirl - 2019-12-11 12:02 PM I think it is our current President's obligation to investigate an admission of extortion by a then VP that could be clear evidence of corruption in a country receivi Edited by jbhoot 2019-12-11 6:13 PM
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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Location: Kansas | Rest easy my conservative friends........yesterday "with a heavy heart" Jerry Nadler informed us, as he proceeds with his impeachment charade, that the President we elected must be "ousted" before he's allowed to win still another election. Gee thanks Jerry, but we think we can make our own decisions. We made a pretty good one in 2016. You, Adam, Nancy and the rest of your smug, arrogant cohorts may go crawl back into your dens. We got this.
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Location: The Lone Star State | If you are a Democrat you will believe what you are being "told" and there will be no changing your mind. You have been inundated with Media Bias but you wont see it that way. You will not open your eyes to the economy and how well its doing, you wont see that because of the tariffs that Trump has imposed more Countries are paying their fair share of GDP into Nato, you wont see an imperfect non politician in office exposing the corrupt members of congress on capital hill. You wont see the now exposed IG report that has actual evidence of the Surveillence of then canditate Trump and the actual (not heresay) text messages between the highest FBI agents actualy texting each other that they will "make sure" he wont get in office. The IG report has Evidence that Emails were doctored by an Attorney (hes going to jail). But you will continue to take the Cool Aid That Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler and the media are giving you. Ask yourself why are the Democracts so laser focused on getting this Man out of office? Try and stand back and be objective. They loved him and his money before he got in office. From day 1 they have been on a witch hunt to get him out. They are so afraid of losing they are throwing everything at him. He is producing actual results and doing what he said he was going to do. Pelosi and her croonies know they cant win because they have nothing to run on but hatred for Trump. - Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
- More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
- We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
- Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
- Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
- New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
- Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
- African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
- Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
- Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
- Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
- Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
- Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
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Champ
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | A lib asked me the other day what we will do when Trump has "impeached" behind his name. Besides telling him it will never happen, I didn't even skip a beat. I said ELECT HIM AGAIN! Since they have done nothing but harrass him his entire term, he should get do overs and serve two more terms. I'm DONE being nice to those A$$wipes. They want to take away our country, turn it into a sh*thole. I'm not going to be nice to them anymore. If they truly are asking questions and want to hear the answers, I will help them all day. But if all they want to do is fight, I'm not playing. |
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Champ
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm |  I get it now.
I was very impatient Tuesday.
I wanted to break things, I was so angry at the blatant attempted overthrow.
We know so much, yet our reps were pretending they knew nothing.
They used words like far right conspiracy theorists, which was BS.
It's definitely a conspiracy, but it's no theory.
We watched as this sham impeachment circus played out without much general push back.
Yes, we see the Repubs in the House getting facts out, but left has a way of drowning them out.
They yell, slam that gavel, (which I find rude, aggressive and snarky when used to silence someone, not just a tap to bring order, or let someone know they have timed out) and act like total circus clowns.
They impeach first, get evidence later, or not at all.
We all know that's very wrong, but it felt like we were whizzing in the wind when we would point it out.
The House of Congress was reduced to a spectacle to be ridiculed.
They deserve it.
Then yesterday, that all changed.
I have a whole new understanding of the big pic and the order of things.
It has to be done exactly this way.
I am so sorry for my impatience.
Yesterday Horowitz testified about his findings.
Lindsey Graham and Horrowitz laid out the evidence we all had been waiting to see.
It sounded like it wasn't much to the untrained ear, but let me tell you, it was "everything"/
Horowitz was restricted to a certain set of responsibility, but it was enough.
He is not a judge, or jury.
He is an inspector,
He's the guy who comes ion to check out the operation, points out flaws and makes recommendations to improve it.
He can only refer criminal activity to AG Barr, or SC, Durham.
Horowitz told us of 17 referrals. ("17". Nice number  :) ).
He to0ld us of all the criminal activity, the altering of evidence, the lack of evidence and exposed many member in the coup attempt.
We learned a whole lot more .
Now I see the order of things and why keeping the Senate was so important.
I see why Manafort, Flynn, Georgie Paps and Carter Page had to become defendants.
DISCOVERY!
Now I see these investigations by the good guys, the patriots who are fighting back coming to the forefront.
We sat through a bogus and flimsy impeachment show while they worked.
The good guys really do have it all.
Nothing can stop what's coming.
I do trust the plan now.
I saw Feinstein's look of defeat when she was more interested in who was getting indicted than she was interested in Horowitz, or his report.
She asked questions he couldn't answer because they had already been referred for prosecution.
That told her the answer without ever needing the name spoken.
We we treated to Constitution class.
Then House procedure and soon it will get to the Senate
The American people had to see and hear the process, so they understand and not freak out.
I believe Rudy is not just a lawyer for Trump, but he's We the People's lawyer too and he's working a case.
He may even be an appointed special prosecutor, for all we know.
If they vote to impeach, just note their names.
We can deal with them at the ballot box.
We now know these people do know the real evidence.
The gig is up and that light at the end of their tunnel is a train!
The Trump train.
The House can vote to impeach, but then the Senate has to take it up.
There are several scenarios.
One is hold a trial.
All the facts will come out and it will be the trial of the century.
The Senate can vote to dismiss it.
That too is ok.
If the Senate dismisses it, Trump can still declassify everything.
He has told us he will do that.
Trump has already won.
The only thing that may vary is the amount of pain coming.
Horowitz was not the end.
He was the beginning.
We also saw a declas in Graham's questioning.
"Clinesmith".
Horowitz wouldn't say it, but Graham did.
That had to be declassified, or Graham would already be called out.
Nobody said a word.
I still think we should be organizing and preparing.We are fighting for survival of our Republic, but the swamp is also fighting for their survival.
We are already at war.
It's not a violent war, but a war just the same.
Expect anything and everything.
The swamp is not going to just lie down.
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | The Barisma / Biden thing definitely stinks. Why isn't Biden being investigated??? He made sure his son landed an extremely lucrative job -- and used his position as VP to make it happen. |
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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Location: Kansas | Then, at the late hour yesterday, instead of voting, Nadler changed his plans to do this deed this morning. Why.....so the press would be ready. Dems are devoted to liberal media. |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | More about Biden's shady dealings is likely to come out in the deposition Hunter faces here in Arkansas over the paternity/child support case. Her lawyers want to know exactly how much he was paid by Burisma and when and what assets he has including any thing to do with the Chinese deal also. Now...the judge may well seal the records...but if/when an actual investigation occurs into the real Quid Pro Quo by Joe Biden...that testimony on the record could come into play. |
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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Location: Kansas | The Dems efforts to shield the Biden's needs to come to a screeching halt. Even they know this was a money-maker for the whole Biden family. Interesting, a reporter asked Nancy Pelosi why the "rush" on the impeachment process. As she reset her dentures with her tongue, she states "oh, there was no rush, we've been working on this for two and half years." |
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The Vaccinator
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | Hillary has already begun to lay the path for her run in 2020 for president -- she is out there 'rebranding' herself.... just waiting, IMO, for the impeachment to settle, and then she will announce -- after all, she was cheated out of it previously and she DESERVES the presidency. :( She is bidding her time to race in on her steed to 'save the Democratic party'....... |
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Champ
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Frodo - 2019-12-13 4:10 AM
Then, at the late hour yesterday, instead of voting, Nadler changed his plans to do this deed this morning. Why.....so the press would be ready. Dems are devoted to liberal media.
The MSM and the deep state are the ying and the yang. They are the right and left hands washing each other. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Delta Cowgirl - 2019-12-13 7:28 AM
Hillary has already begun to lay the path for her run in 2020 for president -- she is out there 'rebranding' herself.... just waiting, IMO, for the impeachment to settle, and then she will announce -- after all, she was cheated out of it previously and she DESERVES the presidency. :( She is bidding her time to race in on her steed to 'save the Democratic party'.......
That's what it appears she's doing. Some think they're going to spring Moochelle on us next year. It won't matter. We all must be sure we vote. No sitting home because we think it will take care of itself or someone else will vote for you. One thing we know is the dems fight, they fight to the bitter end and WE MUST as well. |
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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Location: Kansas | I have a hard time seeing Michelle jumping in although I know it's possible. She's settling down in their new 12 million dollar mansion in Martha's Vineyard. She was never all that crazy about being first lady (if indeed she is a lady). Hillary is nuts. Most people don't groove on failure. She seems to thrive on it. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Frodo - 2019-12-13 8:34 AM
I have a hard time seeing Michelle jumping in although I know it's possible. She's settling down in their new 12 million dollar mansion in Martha's Vineyard. She was never all that crazy about being first lady (if indeed she is a lady).
Hillary is nuts. Most people don't groove on failure. She seems to thrive on it.
Hillary is a narcissistic sociopath and she's got lots of company in politics it seems. That's why they blame everyone else for their failures and they lie like no other. Add to that the fact that they are losing their source of money (pay for play power), they are desperate to maintain their lifestyle, makes them very dangerous people. https://www.verywellmind.com/understanding-the-narcissistic-sociopath-4587611 |
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| The agenda of the Democratic party is to deliver the U.S. to the Globalists. Some within the party don't know what the agenda is, they've just shown up for the "free stuff". |
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