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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2013-11-08 1:43 PM
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My finished mare has fibrotic myopathy in her back left hip. While I know it doesn't bother her, it seems as though the more I run her, the shorter her step in with that hind left leg. I'm giving her the winter off, but I have a friend who just recently purchased a theraplate, and I'm thinking of hauling into her place a few times a week and use it on my mare. Would something like this work for her? Or would shockwave be the best for her?

Looking at different options to make her more comfortable :)

My blue roan mare also has scar on her right hip that gets puffy, hott, and sore when she is ridden. I'm wondering if theraplate/shockwave would work for her as well. Thanks!
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ACEINTHEHOLE
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2013-11-08 2:20 PM
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There is a surgery they can do for that.. They cut through the scar tissue with a 1-2" cut in the hamstring muscles, letting it heal.  this allows that muscle to stretch farther, allowing the leg to take a larger step. Most horses return to normal use in 3-4 weeks.
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2013-11-08 2:24 PM
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ACEINTHEHOLE - 2013-11-08 2:20 PM There is a surgery they can do for that.. They cut through the scar tissue with a 1-2" cut in the hamstring muscles, letting it heal.  this allows that muscle to stretch farther, allowing the leg to take a larger step. Most horses return to normal use in 3-4 weeks.

I was told by the vet who would preform the surgery it would cause her to worsen over time, sometimes it would only take months. Kind of don't want to spend $1,200 on the surgery and then end up with a completely lamed out horse within a few months because that scar tissue grew back
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ACEINTHEHOLE
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2013-11-08 2:26 PM
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hoofs_in_motion - 2013-11-08 2:24 PM
ACEINTHEHOLE - 2013-11-08 2:20 PM There is a surgery they can do for that.. They cut through the scar tissue with a 1-2" cut in the hamstring muscles, letting it heal.  this allows that muscle to stretch farther, allowing the leg to take a larger step. Most horses return to normal use in 3-4 weeks.
I was told by the vet who would preform the surgery it would cause her to worsen over time, sometimes it would only take months. Kind of don't want to spend $1,200 on the surgery and then end up with a completely lamed out horse within a few months because that scar tissue grew back

That is strange.. we did several of them when I worked at a vet clinic.. all were greatly improved and we never saw them again for that issue! 
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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2013-11-08 3:42 PM
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Yes a Theraplate would help.  She wouldk greatly improve.  You might also try a BOT blanket.  I would make sure she had room to exercise as opposed to being in a stall.   
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2013-11-08 3:48 PM
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readytorodeo - 2013-11-08 3:42 PM Yes a Theraplate would help.  She wouldk greatly improve.  You might also try a BOT blanket.  I would make sure she had room to exercise as opposed to being in a stall.   

Ok I'll look into the BOT blanket. What about a PHT? I was actually saving up to buy one LOL, and she has 24/7 turnout. Her and the other mares are always tearing through the pasture, so she gets alot of exercise, just hoping theraplate would help! Thanks! 
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trickster j
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2013-11-08 5:07 PM
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readytorodeo - 2013-11-08 2:42 PM Yes a Theraplate would help.  She wouldk greatly improve.  You might also try a BOT blanket.  I would make sure she had room to exercise as opposed to being in a stall.   

No respond laser this time??

If it is serious, I'd do the surgery and follow up with laser treatments- just get it done and over with. 
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racer1971
Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2013-11-08 6:09 PM
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My vet thinks that the Theraplate is a big waste of money. I think I agree.
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ALS1104
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2013-11-08 7:59 PM
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 i dont have any experience with the imjury the OP mentioned, but they were doing Theraplate Demos at the barrel race i was at last weekend... i put my horse on it for 20 min and he was SO relaxed but focused when i got back on him. he fell asleep at the trailer after, which he NEVER does. i wasnt sure at first but that alone made me a believer. 
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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2013-11-08 8:50 PM
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trickster j - 2013-11-08 5:07 PM
readytorodeo - 2013-11-08 2:42 PM Yes a Theraplate would help.  She wouldk greatly improve.  You might also try a BOT blanket.  I would make sure she had room to exercise as opposed to being in a stall.   
No respond laser this time??



If it is serious, I'd do the surgery and follow up with laser treatments- just get it done and over with. 

 Yes I have a respond laser if that's what your asking.  And I have a Theraplate.  Sorry if you have a problem with that.  I think they are both great products.  I use them every day on horses.  And I know they would help the original posters horse.
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trickster j
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2013-11-08 10:01 PM
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readytorodeo - 2013-11-08 7:50 PM
trickster j - 2013-11-08 5:07 PM
readytorodeo - 2013-11-08 2:42 PM Yes a Theraplate would help.  She wouldk greatly improve.  You might also try a BOT blanket.  I would make sure she had room to exercise as opposed to being in a stall.   
No respond laser this time??

If it is serious, I'd do the surgery and follow up with laser treatments- just get it done and over with. 
 Yes I have a respond laser if that's what your asking.  And I have a Theraplate.  Sorry if you have a problem with that.  I think they are both great products.  I use them every day on horses.  And I know they would help the original posters horse.
I don't mind that you have therapy equipment- I love therapy equipment myself.  What bugs me is that you have the same anwer for every question posted here, which leads me to believe you have not been trained to use them properly- which isn't your fault- it's just what happens when the general uneducated public has easy access to these tools. 

eta: for instance, explain to us how a Theraplate is going to help with a localized fibrotic myopathy?


Edited by trickster j 2013-11-08 10:03 PM
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2013-11-08 11:44 PM
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trickster j - 2013-11-08 10:01 PM
readytorodeo - 2013-11-08 7:50 PM
trickster j - 2013-11-08 5:07 PM
readytorodeo - 2013-11-08 2:42 PM Yes a Theraplate would help.  She wouldk greatly improve.  You might also try a BOT blanket.  I would make sure she had room to exercise as opposed to being in a stall.   
No respond laser this time??

If it is serious, I'd do the surgery and follow up with laser treatments- just get it done and over with. 
 Yes I have a respond laser if that's what your asking.  And I have a Theraplate.  Sorry if you have a problem with that.  I think they are both great products.  I use them every day on horses.  And I know they would help the original posters horse.
I don't mind that you have therapy equipment- I love therapy equipment myself.  What bugs me is that you have the same anwer for every question posted here, which leads me to believe you have not been trained to use them properly- which isn't your fault- it's just what happens when the general uneducated public has easy access to these tools. 

eta: for instance, explain to us how a Theraplate is going to help with a localized fibrotic myopathy?
 woah hold on trickster.......it was just a question i had since im unfamiliar with both. I got a second opinion from another vet who said her case wasnt bad just the slight slapping of the hind, i ran at a race a few weekends ago and it seemed likensje was shortening her step a bit, but my saddle was pinching her. Im looking more for something that will bebfit her along with her chiro work to make her more comfortable. I guess im just afraid to get the surgery done on her for fear she could be in that 50% where it makes the muopathy worse. She has full range of movement and still runs good at races and rodeos. Just a comfort thing i want for her. The lafy who has the theraplate is only 15 miles from my property so thats definitely an option i have available if it would benefit her. As well as my blue roan mare. Im open to all suggestions! And please excuse my spelling, im on my cell and its acting up!!

Edited by hoofs_in_motion 2013-11-08 11:46 PM
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trickster j
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2013-11-09 8:10 AM
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hoofs_in_motion - 2013-11-08 10:44 PM
trickster j - 2013-11-08 10:01 PM
readytorodeo - 2013-11-08 7:50 PM
trickster j - 2013-11-08 5:07 PM
readytorodeo - 2013-11-08 2:42 PM Yes a Theraplate would help.  She wouldk greatly improve.  You might also try a BOT blanket.  I would make sure she had room to exercise as opposed to being in a stall.   
No respond laser this time??



If it is serious, I'd do the surgery and follow up with laser treatments- just get it done and over with. 
 Yes I have a respond laser if that's what your asking.  And I have a Theraplate.  Sorry if you have a problem with that.  I think they are both great products.  I use them every day on horses.  And I know they would help the original posters horse.
I don't mind that you have therapy equipment- I love therapy equipment myself.  What bugs me is that you have the same anwer for every question posted here, which leads me to believe you have not been trained to use them properly- which isn't your fault- it's just what happens when the general uneducated public has easy access to these tools. 



eta: for instance, explain to us how a Theraplate is going to help with a localized fibrotic myopathy?
 woah hold on trickster.......it was just a question i had since im unfamiliar with both. I got a second opinion from another vet who said her case wasnt bad just the slight slapping of the hind, i ran at a race a few weekends ago and it seemed likensje was shortening her step a bit, but my saddle was pinching her. Im looking more for something that will bebfit her along with her chiro work to make her more comfortable. I guess im just afraid to get the surgery done on her for fear she could be in that 50% where it makes the muopathy worse. She has full range of movement and still runs good at races and rodeos. Just a comfort thing i want for her. The lafy who has the theraplate is only 15 miles from my property so thats definitely an option i have available if it would benefit her. As well as my blue roan mare. Im open to all suggestions! And please excuse my spelling, im on my cell and its acting up!!

It would be great if you could experiment with the Theraplate and your horses condition!  Sounds like it is easily accesible to you, and it sure isn't going to make it worse- so I think you should go for it, and then keep us updated on how it progresses.  I would still like to know how a Theraplate is going to help in this case, so if readytorodeo knows, I would love to hear!  No harm in that, is there?
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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2013-11-09 8:21 AM
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hoofs_in_motion - 2013-11-08 10:44 PM
trickster j - 2013-11-08 10:01 PM
readytorodeo - 2013-11-08 7:50 PM
trickster j - 2013-11-08 5:07 PM
readytorodeo - 2013-11-08 2:42 PM Yes a Theraplate would help.  She wouldk greatly improve.  You might also try a BOT blanket.  I would make sure she had room to exercise as opposed to being in a stall.   
No respond laser this time??



If it is serious, I'd do the surgery and follow up with laser treatments- just get it done and over with. 
 Yes I have a respond laser if that's what your asking.  And I have a Theraplate.  Sorry if you have a problem with that.  I think they are both great products.  I use them every day on horses.  And I know they would help the original posters horse.
I don't mind that you have therapy equipment- I love therapy equipment myself.  What bugs me is that you have the same anwer for every question posted here, which leads me to believe you have not been trained to use them properly- which isn't your fault- it's just what happens when the general uneducated public has easy access to these tools. 



eta: for instance, explain to us how a Theraplate is going to help with a localized fibrotic myopathy?
 woah hold on trickster.......it was just a question i had since im unfamiliar with both. I got a second opinion from another vet who said her case wasnt bad just the slight slapping of the hind, i ran at a race a few weekends ago and it seemed likensje was shortening her step a bit, but my saddle was pinching her. Im looking more for something that will bebfit her along with her chiro work to make her more comfortable. I guess im just afraid to get the surgery done on her for fear she could be in that 50% where it makes the muopathy worse. She has full range of movement and still runs good at races and rodeos. Just a comfort thing i want for her. The lafy who has the theraplate is only 15 miles from my property so thats definitely an option i have available if it would benefit her. As well as my blue roan mare. Im open to all suggestions! And please excuse my spelling, im on my cell and its acting up!!

It would be great if you could experiment with the Theraplate and your horses condition!  Sounds like it is easily accesible to you, and it sure isn't going to make it worse- so I think you should go for it, and then keep us updated on how it progresses.  I would still like to know how a Theraplate is going to help in this case, so if readytorodeo knows, I would love to hear!  No harm in that, is there?

I'm not uneducated, but sounds like you are. I have used the laser for years. The Theraplate for not as long. Don't say things about people unless you know them.
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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2013-11-09 8:26 AM
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The Theraplate will help. It causes the muscles to contract and then they release. Speeds blood flow also. Inflamation also.
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trickster j
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2013-11-09 8:31 AM
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readytorodeo - 2013-11-09 7:21 AM
trickster j - 2013-11-09 8:10 AM
hoofs_in_motion - 2013-11-08 10:44 PM
trickster j - 2013-11-08 10:01 PM
readytorodeo - 2013-11-08 7:50 PM
trickster j - 2013-11-08 5:07 PM
readytorodeo - 2013-11-08 2:42 PM Yes a Theraplate would help.  She wouldk greatly improve.  You might also try a BOT blanket.  I would make sure she had room to exercise as opposed to being in a stall.   
No respond laser this time??

If it is serious, I'd do the surgery and follow up with laser treatments- just get it done and over with. 
 Yes I have a respond laser if that's what your asking.  And I have a Theraplate.  Sorry if you have a problem with that.  I think they are both great products.  I use them every day on horses.  And I know they would help the original posters horse.
I don't mind that you have therapy equipment- I love therapy equipment myself.  What bugs me is that you have the same anwer for every question posted here, which leads me to believe you have not been trained to use them properly- which isn't your fault- it's just what happens when the general uneducated public has easy access to these tools. 

eta: for instance, explain to us how a Theraplate is going to help with a localized fibrotic myopathy?
 woah hold on trickster.......it was just a question i had since im unfamiliar with both. I got a second opinion from another vet who said her case wasnt bad just the slight slapping of the hind, i ran at a race a few weekends ago and it seemed likensje was shortening her step a bit, but my saddle was pinching her. Im looking more for something that will bebfit her along with her chiro work to make her more comfortable. I guess im just afraid to get the surgery done on her for fear she could be in that 50% where it makes the muopathy worse. She has full range of movement and still runs good at races and rodeos. Just a comfort thing i want for her. The lafy who has the theraplate is only 15 miles from my property so thats definitely an option i have available if it would benefit her. As well as my blue roan mare. Im open to all suggestions! And please excuse my spelling, im on my cell and its acting up!!
It would be great if you could experiment with the Theraplate and your horses condition!  Sounds like it is easily accesible to you, and it sure isn't going to make it worse- so I think you should go for it, and then keep us updated on how it progresses.  I would still like to know how a Theraplate is going to help in this case, so if readytorodeo knows, I would love to hear!  No harm in that, is there?
I'm not uneducated, but sounds like you are. I have used the laser for years. The Theraplate for not as long. Don't say things about people unless you know them.
Wow- alrighty then- have at it!

eta:  And maybe if you'd put your name in your profile I would know you- hard to know anyone around here when they choose to hide behind a screen name-


Edited by trickster j 2013-11-09 8:35 AM
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trickster j
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Posted 2013-11-09 8:44 AM
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readytorodeo - 2013-11-09 7:26 AM The Theraplate will help. It causes the muscles to contract and then they release. Speeds blood flow also. Inflamation also.
Ok- one more, than I promise I'll stay out of your road and let you carry on.  
A fibrotic myopathy is a wad of scar tissue- it is not a muscle, blood flow can not enter it.  Even though the Theraplate can cause muscles to contract and release, (muscles contract to resist vibration, and then release when the vibration stops, which causes blood flow to begin to circulate back into the tissues that had been held in contraction), it won't affect the scar tissue at all.  Which is why surgery, or shock-wave is used to break up the adhesion.  This is good to follow up (always) with laser therapy.

eta:  to the OP, you asked for opinions on the Theraplate and scar tissue- I have given you mine, and also tried to steer you away from some misinformation.  Honestly, if you want to try the Theraplate, just try it- don't come on asking for opinions and then get crabby when they are offered.

K- that's it- I will say no more!


 

Edited by trickster j 2013-11-09 8:49 AM
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DD2012
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2013-11-09 8:56 AM
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readytorodeo - 2013-11-09 8:26 AM

The Theraplate will help. It causes the muscles to contract and then they release. Speeds blood flow also. Inflamation also.

How does muscle contraction help with disolving scar tissue?

ETA: sorry didn't see Trickster had already asked that question



Edited by DD2012 2013-11-09 8:58 AM
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Posted 2013-11-09 9:02 AM
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I dont' know the answer to your question, but for the OP, you contradicted yourself severely in your post.  You said it didn't bother her, but then talked about how it did.  Kudos for you though for wanting to find a way to help her!  You are getting some good advice.  I am not familiar enough with the condition to even consider offering any. 
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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2013-11-09 9:19 AM
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DD2012 - 2013-11-09 8:56 AM
readytorodeo - 2013-11-09 8:26 AM The Theraplate will help. It causes the muscles to contract and then they release. Speeds blood flow also. Inflamation also.
How does muscle contraction help with disolving scar tissue? ETA: sorry didn't see Trickster had already asked that question

Scar tissue is tight and thick.  The stretching and contracting action of the Theraplate will help dissolve the scar tissue.  Plus it relaxes the muscles.  And with the increase of blood flow it helps injuries to heal.  I have used it on scar tissue on my own mare and have seen a decrease in the scar tissue and increase of flexibility and stride.  

Edited by readytorodeo 2013-11-09 9:21 AM
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