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| Vickie - 2016-11-16 5:32 PM
At this point Hillary is ahead by one million votes, but the out dated electorial college is once again circumventing the popular vote. Â If things were reversed how would all you Trumpsters be reacting? Â I heard before the election that there would be a revolt, marches on the capitol, etc. Â Now all of a sudden the electorial college is great and the election wasn't rigged. Â Hypocracy is on full display in the Republican party.Â
The electoral college was created to stop tyranny and voter fraud. Our forefathers were very smart. They knew that a true democracy would never work due to fraud. Like illegals voting, dead people voting, Snow White and all 7 dwarves voting, etc.
I seriously doubt Hillary won the popular vote once you get rid of the ridiculious fraud the democrats have no problem using. | |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | SKM - 2016-11-16 6:15 PM Vickie - 2016-11-16 5:32 PM At this point Hillary is ahead by one million votes, but the out dated electorial college is once again circumventing the popular vote. If things were reversed how would all you Trumpsters be reacting? I heard before the election that there would be a revolt, marches on the capitol, etc. Now all of a sudden the electorial college is great and the election wasn't rigged. Hypocracy is on full display in the Republican party. The electoral college was created to stop tyranny and voter fraud. Our forefathers were very smart. They knew that a true democracy would never work due to fraud. Like illegals voting, dead people voting, Snow White and all 7 dwarves voting, etc. I seriously doubt Hillary won the popular vote once you get rid of the ridiculious fraud the democrats have no problem using.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Here you go Vickie. If you just watch this for 10 minutes, you will settle down and you will appreciate the brilliance of our founding fathers. This is basically why we have the EC. Hopefully you will appreciate this.
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| Vickie - 2016-11-16 6:32 PM
At this point Hillary is ahead by one million votes, but the out dated electorial college is once again circumventing the popular vote. Â If things were reversed how would all you Trumpsters be reacting? Â I heard before the election that there would be a revolt, marches on the capitol, etc. Â Now all of a sudden the electorial college is great and the election wasn't rigged. Â Hypocracy is on full display in the Republican party.Â
Well Vickie feel free to amend the Constitution, All it takes is two thirds of both houses of congress to make the proposal. Or you can get two thirds of the states to make the proposal. And than you have to get three fourths of the states to ratify. Easy right!!! Just one question do you really think small states like Montana, Wy. Maine NH. ND, SD,Vermount, Alaska, Ext. are going to go along with giving up their voice? | |
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| Vickie - 2016-11-16 6:32 PM At this point Hillary is ahead by one million votes, but the out dated electorial college is once again circumventing the popular vote. If things were reversed how would all you Trumpsters be reacting? I heard before the election that there would be a revolt, marches on the capitol, etc. Now all of a sudden the electorial college is great and the election wasn't rigged. Hypocracy is on full display in the Republican party.
The electoral college is no more outdated than our constitution. | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | jbhoot - 2016-11-16 7:45 PM
Vickie - 2016-11-16 6:32 PM
At this point Hillary is ahead by one million votes, but the out dated electorial college is once again circumventing the popular vote. Â If things were reversed how would all you Trumpsters be reacting? Â I heard before the election that there would be a revolt, marches on the capitol, etc. Â Now all of a sudden the electorial college is great and the election wasn't rigged. Â Hypocracy is on full display in the Republican party.Â
Well Vickie feel free to amend the Constitution, All it takes is two thirds of both houses of congress to make the proposal. Or you can get two thirds of the states to make the proposal. And than you have to get three fourths of the states to ratify. Easy right!!! Just one question do you really think small states like Montana, Wy. Maine NH. ND, SD,Vermount, Alaska, Ext. are going to go along with giving up their voice?
Go easy on Vickie. Barbara Boxer, one of the more erudite of the Democrat party and she thinks the EC can simply be eliminated and replaced by a popular vote with a simple act of congress. | |
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Location: Windoming | Vickie - 2016-11-16 5:32 PM At this point Hillary is ahead by one million votes, but the out dated electorial college is once again circumventing the popular vote. If things were reversed how would all you Trumpsters be reacting? I heard before the election that there would be a revolt, marches on the capitol, etc. Now all of a sudden the electorial college is great and the election wasn't rigged. Hypocracy is on full display in the Republican party.
Um, isn't that exactly what is happening now, revolts, marches, riots....................... | |
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Location: Ky | Silly Filly - 2016-11-17 10:36 AM Vickie - 2016-11-16 5:32 PM At this point Hillary is ahead by one million votes, but the out dated electorial college is once again circumventing the popular vote. If things were reversed how would all you Trumpsters be reacting? I heard before the election that there would be a revolt, marches on the capitol, etc. Now all of a sudden the electorial college is great and the election wasn't rigged. Hypocracy is on full display in the Republican party. Um, isn't that exactly what is happening now, revolts, marches, riots.......................
Yes, and they are just as wrong as would have been the GOP protesters. But the dems were not calling for the electoral college to be abolished before the election, Trump was. The dems were not calling it a rigged election, Trump was.
Now that Trump won a rigged election and only the electoral vote at that, it is glaring hyprcrisy. That's not news.
They all need a good dose of STFU. This is how it works in our country that was great even while Trump claimed it wasn't.
We have to move forward with what we have. I understand the people that say they can't live in a country that has Trump as president. So goodbye to them!! Another great thing about our country is that they are free to leave. | |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | jd&ez - 2016-11-17 10:42 AM Silly Filly - 2016-11-17 10:36 AM Vickie - 2016-11-16 5:32 PM At this point Hillary is ahead by one million votes, but the out dated electorial college is once again circumventing the popular vote. If things were reversed how would all you Trumpsters be reacting? I heard before the election that there would be a revolt, marches on the capitol, etc. Now all of a sudden the electorial college is great and the election wasn't rigged. Hypocracy is on full display in the Republican party. Um, isn't that exactly what is happening now, revolts, marches, riots.......................
Now that Trump won a rigged election and only the electoral vote at that, it is glaring hyprcrisy. That's not news.
They all need a good dose of STFU. This is how it works in our country that was great even while Trump claimed it wasn't.
We have to move forward with what we have. I understand the people that say they can't live in a country that has Trump as president. So goodbye to them!! Another great thing about our country is that they are free to leave.
IMO not many people really understand how our govt works or why the electoral college was a good idea. I have seen many conservative types who thought the EC was bad, but now that they have seen it work as intended and have a better understanding of the purpose, have freely admitted to being wrong. Is it a bad thing to learn a lesson and change your mind when your understanding improves? I personally think it could be improved upon by splitting votes according to congressional districts rather than winner take all, but that is a state issue and should remain a state issue.
Anyone who would like to learn more about the EC should follow Tara Ross on FB. She also does short history lessons that are fascinating. | |
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Location: Ky | Three 4 Luck - 2016-11-17 11:17 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-17 10:42 AM Silly Filly - 2016-11-17 10:36 AM Vickie - 2016-11-16 5:32 PM At this point Hillary is ahead by one million votes, but the out dated electorial college is once again circumventing the popular vote. If things were reversed how would all you Trumpsters be reacting? I heard before the election that there would be a revolt, marches on the capitol, etc. Now all of a sudden the electorial college is great and the election wasn't rigged. Hypocracy is on full display in the Republican party. Um, isn't that exactly what is happening now, revolts, marches, riots.......................
Now that Trump won a rigged election and only the electoral vote at that, it is glaring hyprcrisy. That's not news.
They all need a good dose of STFU. This is how it works in our country that was great even while Trump claimed it wasn't.
We have to move forward with what we have. I understand the people that say they can't live in a country that has Trump as president. So goodbye to them!! Another great thing about our country is that they are free to leave.
Anyone who would like to learn more about the EC should follow Tara Ross on FB. She also does short history lessons that are fascinating.
Haha!! They didn't change their opinion because of some higher learning. They changed because of the outcome. | |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Maybe the outcome got their attention and highlighted why it works and a lightbulb went off. I can't really say that more of one side or the other disliked the EC, it seems to be a common sentiment among people from both sides to think we live in a democracy and the popular vote should rule. Civics was a required high school course when I was in school, and then I had to have government in college as well...not sure if other people weren't paying attention or maybe had sucky teachers. | |
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| SKM - 2016-11-16 7:15 PM Vickie - 2016-11-16 5:32 PM At this point Hillary is ahead by one million votes, but the out dated electorial college is once again circumventing the popular vote. If things were reversed how would all you Trumpsters be reacting? I heard before the election that there would be a revolt, marches on the capitol, etc. Now all of a sudden the electorial college is great and the election wasn't rigged. Hypocracy is on full display in the Republican party. The electoral college was created to stop tyranny and voter fraud. Our forefathers were very smart. They knew that a true democracy would never work due to fraud. Like illegals voting, dead people voting, Snow White and all 7 dwarves voting, etc. I seriously doubt Hillary won the popular vote once you get rid of the ridiculious fraud the democrats have no problem using.
As outdated as the super delegates that got Hillary the nomination over Sanders even though he had the popular vote-pin most states -can't have it both ways. Where was the complaining about the system then??? | |
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Location: Kansas | jd&ez - 2016-11-17 10:42 AM Silly Filly - 2016-11-17 10:36 AM Vickie - 2016-11-16 5:32 PM At this point Hillary is ahead by one million votes, but the out dated electorial college is once again circumventing the popular vote. If things were reversed how would all you Trumpsters be reacting? I heard before the election that there would be a revolt, marches on the capitol, etc. Now all of a sudden the electorial college is great and the election wasn't rigged. Hypocracy is on full display in the Republican party. Um, isn't that exactly what is happening now, revolts, marches, riots.......................
Now that Trump won a rigged election and only the electoral vote at that, it is glaring hyprcrisy. That's not news.
They all need a good dose of STFU. This is how it works in our country that was great even while Trump claimed it wasn't.
We have to move forward with what we have. I understand the people that say they can't live in a country that has Trump as president. So goodbye to them!! Another great thing about our country is that they are free to leave.
$21 trillion dollars of debt that was $8 trillion when Obama came into office, Obamacare, a country so divided that thousands of crybaby liberal morons are protesting in the streets because they didn't get their way, millions out of work, millions on food stamps and welfare and receiving free medical compliments of U.S. taxpayers. Millions of illegal invaders from every country you can think of freely walking our streets. I ran into two of these at Kohl's the other day, couldn't get a Kohl's card because they didn't have a driver's license yet they drove to this store......no driver's license no insurance right? And of course there's ISIS.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | This explains, in part, the heart of the problem:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yRZZpk_9k8E | |
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| Here is the part I just don't get about the liberal position. Ok it looks like Hillary will win the popular vote primarily from two states NY. and Cal. So do you want two of the most populated states telling the rest of the 48 states drop dead we have more people we win? The fact is Trump not only won the EC but he won 30 states to Hillary's 20 so isn't that majority rules? Isn't that what you want? Or is it that liberals just don't believe in states rights. | |
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Location: Ky | Frodo - 2016-11-17 12:23 PM jd&ez - 2016-11-17 10:42 AM Silly Filly - 2016-11-17 10:36 AM Vickie - 2016-11-16 5:32 PM At this point Hillary is ahead by one million votes, but the out dated electorial college is once again circumventing the popular vote. If things were reversed how would all you Trumpsters be reacting? I heard before the election that there would be a revolt, marches on the capitol, etc. Now all of a sudden the electorial college is great and the election wasn't rigged. Hypocracy is on full display in the Republican party. Um, isn't that exactly what is happening now, revolts, marches, riots.......................
Now that Trump won a rigged election and only the electoral vote at that, it is glaring hyprcrisy. That's not news.
They all need a good dose of STFU. This is how it works in our country that was great even while Trump claimed it wasn't.
We have to move forward with what we have. I understand the people that say they can't live in a country that has Trump as president. So goodbye to them!! Another great thing about our country is that they are free to leave.
$21 trillion dollars of debt that was $8 trillion when Obama came into office, Obamacare, a country so divided that thousands of crybaby liberal morons are protesting in the streets because they didn't get their way, millions out of work, millions on food stamps and welfare and receiving free medical compliments of U.S. taxpayers. Millions of illegal invaders from every country you can think of freely walking our streets. I ran into two of these at Kohl's the other day, couldn't get a Kohl's card because they didn't have a driver's license yet they drove to this store......no driver's license no insurance right? And of course there's ISIS.
I don't question Trump's remarks about this country not being a great country. I say he is wrong. And anyone else that says America is not a great country is wrong.
So, if you are with him on his attack on America then you are just as wrong.
Does that clear up the questioning part? | |
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Location: Ky | jbhoot - 2016-11-17 1:45 PM Here is the part I just don't get about the liberal position. Ok it looks like Hillary will win the popular vote primarily from two states NY. and Cal. So do you want two of the most populated states telling the rest of the 48 states drop dead we have more people we win? The fact is Trump not only won the EC but he won 30 states to Hillary's 20 so isn't that majority rules? Isn't that what you want? Or is it that liberals just don't believe in states rights.
That is not a liberal position. That's an individual position. There's supposed conservatives that don't agree with the EC. In fact, the trumpers didn't agree with it at all when they thought Clinton was going to win. So spin away. It doesn't change facts. | |
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| jd&ez - 2016-11-17 6:42 PM
jbhoot - 2016-11-17 1:45 PM Here is the part I just don't get about the liberal position. Ok it looks like Hillary will win the popular vote primarily from two states NY. and Cal. So do you want two of the most populated states telling the rest of the 48 states drop dead we have more people we win? The fact is Trump not only won the EC but he won 30 states to Hillary's 20 so isn't that majority rules? Isn't that what you want? Or is it that liberals just don't believe in states rights.
That is not a liberal position. That's an individual position. There's supposed conservatives that don't agree with the EC. In fact, the trumpers didn't agree with it at all when they thought Clinton was going to win. So spin away. It doesn't change facts.Â
No spin my friend just fact. Or maybe you don't read the news presented by both sides. | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | jd&ez - 2016-11-17 6:40 PM
Frodo - 2016-11-17 12:23 PM jd&ez - 2016-11-17 10:42 AM Silly Filly - 2016-11-17 10:36 AM Vickie - 2016-11-16 5:32 PM At this point Hillary is ahead by one million votes, but the out dated electorial college is once again circumventing the popular vote.  If things were reversed how would all you Trumpsters be reacting?  I heard before the election that there would be a revolt, marches on the capitol, etc.  Now all of a sudden the electorial college is great and the election wasn't rigged.  Hypocracy is on full display in the Republican party. Um, isn't that exactly what is happening now, revolts, marches, riots.......................
Now that Trump won a rigged election and only the electoral vote at that, it is glaring hyprcrisy. That's not news.
They all need a good dose of STFU. This is how it works in our country that was great even while Trump claimed it wasn't.
We have to move forward with what we have. I understand the people that say they can't live in a country that has Trump as president. So goodbye to them!! Another great thing about our country is that they are free to leave.Â
$21 trillion dollars of debt that was $8 trillion when Obama came into office,  Obamacare, a country so divided that thousands of crybaby liberal morons are protesting in the streets because they didn't get their way, millions out of work, millions on food stamps and welfare and receiving free medical compliments of U.S. taxpayers.  Millions of illegal invaders from every country you can think of freely walking our streets.  I ran into two of these at Kohl's the other day, couldn't get a Kohl's card because they didn't have a driver's license yet they drove to this store......no driver's license no insurance right?  And of course there's ISIS.
So, if you are with him on his attack on America then you are just as wrong.
Does that clear up the questioning part?Â
Trump has elaborated on "Make America Great Again".
We don't win on trade.
Our jobs have left the country.
We didn't win on NAFTA.
We don't win with China.
We don't win on the economy.
We don't win when it comes to healthcare.
We don't win in education.
We don't win when it comes to enforcing illegal immigration jobs.
We don't win when it comes to law and order.
We don't win when it comes to maintaining our military might.
We don't win when we don't put America first.
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