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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | astreakinchic - 2014-12-04 10:06 AM OregonBR - 2014-12-04 12:57 PM Well technically a LOT of the futurity rules state 20XX or before for a birth date. So even the 5 and under futurities, someone COULD run a 3 year old. But it doesn't happen much if ever.
I know BFA has a Juvenile for 3 year olds. But they are coming 4 in 3 weeks. So they will run in the 4 year old and under futurities for the 11 month period after January 1. I dunno anyone whose ever done that back East. I wouldn't recommend that unless they wanted their booty spanked! I mean MG might try and pull and a quick one and try to slip a 5yr off as a 4yr in a small futurity but that was back in the old days.
OKC is the first time through the gates for 3 yr olds and they are LOST so lost even the ones with the best trainers out there. Its extremely hard to replicate the noise and excitement of OKC for those babies. Hound dog had been hauled everywhere and turned the the tops out of them but he looked like a pos in the juv. that year. Its a gamble and those superstakes horses that win somestimes are never heard from again. There are standouts that believe it or not put one spectular run together and then never get it put together again with no fault from owner, trainer, or vet.
I'm not saying they are running 5 year olds in the 4 and under futurities. I'm saying they COULD run a 3 year old in a 4 OR 5 and under futurity. Because the rules say (Example) 2011 and before for the age of the horse. |
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Location: Moving soon..... | I only went to one futurity in my life and my mare coliced. I personally would prefer 5 years and under. I do know that years back they had 5 year old futurities but it didn't last long. I do not do futurities because I don't have the money it takes to get them seasoned good enough. I have a mare that is 24 years old. She was run in the futurities and she has issues. I know that she would not have had those issues if she had been rested. We bought her when she was 10 and were not told anything about her past history. I do know who campaigned her at the futurities and all I will say to that is "no wonder" she has issues. The trainer that hauled her no longer hauls to futurities. My mare is turned out and will forever be retired. She will die on our place. It's sad because she is a really sweet mare.
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| OregonBR - 2014-12-04 1:12 PM
astreakinchic - 2014-12-04 10:06 AM OregonBR - 2014-12-04 12:57 PM Well technically a LOT of the futurity rules state 20XX or before for a birth date. So even the 5 and under futurities, someone COULD run a 3 year old. But it doesn't happen much if ever.
I know BFA has a Juvenile for 3 year olds. But they are coming 4 in 3 weeks. So they will run in the 4 year old and under futurities for the 11 month period after January 1. I dunno anyone whose ever done that back East. I wouldn't recommend that unless they wanted their booty spanked! I mean MG might try and pull and a quick one and try to slip a 5yr off as a 4yr in a small futurity but that was back in the old days.
OKC is the first time through the gates for 3 yr olds and they are LOST so lost even the ones with the best trainers out there. Its extremely hard to replicate the noise and excitement of OKC for those babies. Hound dog had been hauled everywhere and turned the the tops out of them but he looked like a pos in the juv. that year. Its a gamble and those superstakes horses that win somestimes are never heard from again. There are standouts that believe it or not put one spectular run together and then never get it put together again with no fault from owner, trainer, or vet.
No I understood you...I'm sorry...I was just giving an example of things done differently.
Basically if you want to futurity on your own start with a small one, close to home, and one that has low fees. If your horse is one that you want futurited and you think will be a standout then send it to someone. Believe it or not most futurity trainers will be completely honest with you because they will not waste their time on something that won't work out. |
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Location: Texas | My take on it is, aim for 4 and if they aren't ready run them at 5. For my mares, I want their babies to get out there and get the best shot. If they miss their 4 year old year, hopefully they will get to run at 5... |
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| I am also on the east coast. That I know of, there are -0- 5yo futurities east of the Mississippi. Futurities are 4yo or younger, and Derbies are for the 5yo's.
I futuritied Xena. She ran in 7 BFA events and won quite a bit.
She does have a stifle issue, but not sure at all that running her early had anything to do with it. All the vets who have treated her have agreed that her habit of kicking stall walls is more likely to have caused the issue.
Now that I have futuritied one I am not anxious to futurity another. I did want to get my DFP colt out for a few, but it isn't breaking my heart not to. He'll be a stronger open horse for a longer duration for waiting another year to get him going, I hope.
But if I do want to futurity, my only reasonable option is to go BFA and 4yo, due to location. |
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