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Location: South | Well, update. I gave the seller many different days I could come AGAIN tonight. Seller insisted on Tuesday only. I then changed plans around again (mind you, at th hand of someone else's rig) but can only get there in the evening. Seller told me this was absolutely unacceptable if I could not be there before noon... and the location where I picked the horse up is not where she lives apparently... Do I still drop this horse off at a facility that isn't even theirs that they insist I'm not welcome at unless they're present? This is so overwhelming. Are they now responsible for retrieving their own animal? |
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Location: PNW | Yes. Show up, unload the horse "hey I'm here to drop this horse for Shady Seller, where does it go?" And leave. |
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Location: Texas | I cannot stand people who INSIST on being difficult!
The only thing I can suggest is try to talk to her again, and tell her to work with you about picking the horse up or she can come get it herself.
You have not done anything wrong, you stopped payment on the check, have contacted the seller about the lameness and I'm assuming have messages or calls saved. Just to cover all your bases, it wouldn't hurt to have the local sheriff's department make a report, incase the seller tries to say the horse is stolen or y'all go to court - heaven forbid. The report will simply show you are attempting to return the horse, but the seller will not work with you.
Sticky situations suck, but hopefully it ends soon. Keep us updated!
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Location: South | EqualRanch - 2015-03-30 11:32 PM
I cannot stand people who INSIST on being difficult!
The only thing I can suggest is try to talk to her again, and tell her to work with you about picking the horse up or she can come get it herself.
You have not done anything wrong, you stopped payment on the check, have contacted the seller about the lameness and I'm assuming have messages or calls saved. Just to cover all your bases, it wouldn't hurt to have the local sheriff's department make a report, incase the seller tries to say the horse is stolen or y'all go to court - heaven forbid. The report will simply show you are attempting to return the horse, but the seller will not work with you.
Sticky situations suck, but hopefully it ends soon. Keep us updated!
You and me both! I just can't even fathom why someone would act like this. Of course now they're trying to say the lameness is minor and "doesn't cause pain." I sent one final text saying that she either needs to make herself available as I have done, or she can get the horse from my location at her expense. I even offered to give her the fuel money to come out here.Great tip with the sherrif, didn't even think of that. That's what I'm afraid of is getting into a big legal bind that I tried to avoid. Thanks everyone |
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Location: Nebraska | suzy2qtee - 2015-03-30 5:07 PM DOES the hippa law pertain to livestock?? Serious question. I understand that You didn't pay the bill in nunyas business. But is it illegal?
somewhat, yes. I have a friend that works at a clinic I took my horse to quite a few years ago. I asked her to get me a copy of the xrays we had taken just for my personal reference. She couldn't do it by herself. I would have had to go in and sign for them. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Wow, now she's being a Bit** over this, and being very spiteful to you over something THAT she did was wrong. I would just let her know if she dont want to be there to get the horse from you and she keeps yanking your chain, I would call the Sheriff and tell them your problem and then I would let her know that she needs to come and pick up her horse, BUT you will be charging her xamount of money a day for feed and board. Maybe that will light a fire under her butt, LOL. Non of this is your fault, she's the one that keeps putting you off. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | EqualRanch - 2015-03-30 11:32 PM I cannot stand people who INSIST on being difficult!
The only thing I can suggest is try to talk to her again, and tell her to work with you about picking the horse up or she can come get it herself.
You have not done anything wrong, you stopped payment on the check, have contacted the seller about the lameness and I'm assuming have messages or calls saved. Just to cover all your bases, it wouldn't hurt to have the local sheriff's department make a report, incase the seller tries to say the horse is stolen or y'all go to court - heaven forbid. The report will simply show you are attempting to return the horse, but the seller will not work with you.
Sticky situations suck, but hopefully it ends soon. Keep us updated!
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Location: Where I am happiest | Tell her then she needs to make arrangements for someone, anyone to be there or you'll just put him in a pen and she can move him around later. Or she can retrieve him from the local fairgrounds. He'll be in a stall or pen there. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Sending prayers, this is really turning into a big mess for her.  |
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Location: Tx | I was in a very similar situation. Went and tried a horse on a sat, 4 hours away, he sounded perfect so I took my trailer and left with him. I did have red flags when I got there as she was already lightly working him but thought maybe she just doesn't know common curtsey is to wait for the seller to do everything. I had met her at a different facility that was not where she kept her horses or lived. We had a verbal agreement that I would have him vetted on Monday and then call her to let her know he passed before she did anything with the money. He did NOT pass, showed navicular changes (my vet stated he would be completely lame in just 2 years) and when I called her she stated there was no way he was lame. I also noticed that when I looked at his papers, it wasnt even the same horse, neither were his coggins and they didn't match each other either. I wanted to return him that day, but she kept moving the days, and making it a hassle for me. Then a week later, offered me the horse at half price. I didn't want a lame horse at all! I finally had to have my sister just drive him home, where the woman actually lives, and drop him in her front yard with the daughter of the woman, my sister took a quick photo and left. I was out about $1,000 of expenses, diesel, vet cost and check cancel fee and I now know 1 red flag is a deal breaker to me.
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Location: South | Next to Heaven - 2015-04-01 9:19 AM
I was in a very similar situation. Went and tried a horse on a sat, 4 hours away, he sounded perfect so I took my trailer and left with him. I did have red flags when I got there as she was already lightly working him but thought maybe she just doesn't know common curtsey is to wait for the seller to do everything. I had met her at a different facility that was not where she kept her horses or lived. We had a verbal agreement that I would have him vetted on Monday and then call her to let her know he passed before she did anything with the money. He did NOT pass, showed navicular changes (my vet stated he would be completely lame in just 2 years ) and when I called her she stated there was no way he was lame. I also noticed that when I looked at his papers, it wasnt even the same horse, neither were his coggins and they didn't match each other either. I wanted to return him that day, but she kept moving the days, and making it a hassle for me. Then a week later, offered me the horse at half price. I didn't want a lame horse at all! I finally had to have my sister just drive him home, where the woman actually lives, and drop him in her front yard with the daughter of the woman, my sister took a quick photo and left. I was out about $1,000 of expenses, diesel, vet cost and check cancel fee and I now know 1 red flag is a deal breaker to me.
I sure hope this works out for you!
Oh, wow!!! Too similar it's eerie. I am SO SORRY. My heart breaks for you. I too will be out several hundred after all this. It is sad that we live in a world where there are so many dishonest people, it truly tarnishes the good honest horsemen out there who still exist like ourselves, and the many wonderful women I've had the pleasure of speaking to from this forum.She tried getting out of meeting me today for the 3rd time and I said have someone there to receive the horse! Woman called 3 PD departments for Petes sake! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Just for you my friend  And this, fingers crossed LOL...
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Location: Woodstown, NJ | I hope you went today and dropped the horse off. You definitely can't be wishy washy with this chick. It's obvious she was trying to unload that horse.
I'm horse shopping now. Sadly, horse people have a bad reputation for a reason. This kind of stuff happens way too often. I almost bought a problem horse recently. Luckily I found out about it before I picked her up. But I did give a deposit which I had to put a stop payment on. It was a stressful situation but I was lucky I didn't actually get the horse like you.
One good lesson here that I want to remember is to always find out where the seller actually lives. |
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