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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Red Raider - 2015-11-17 1:47 PM I know a lot has been written by the press about why the backlash was so bad, but no one talks about what was going through most people's minds at the time. In March 2003, we weren't that far removed from 9/11 and the push to be a united front of support that still came from it. Many people watched loved ones and friends join the military during the year or so before all this to make a difference and try to keep terrorism from happening on our soil again. People had been in heated debates whether or not war in Iraq was needed or was the best move.
The problem was that at the time Maines' made her statement, even if you were someone who objected to going to war in Iraq, it was a time when everybody was putting aside those thoughts and supporting our troops before they left. To make a statement like she did was like a petulant child stomping her foot in protest while the adults were bucking up, putting their feelings aside and giving support to those who were about to put their lives in danger and were saying goodbye to their families for the last time. The timing of it all was just particularly bad. I know in my rural part of Texas, it was more about the seeming lack of support for our troops at the time than the statements about Bush and the war itself. That's what people remembered and the way she kept running her mouth off about it just sealed the deal -- especially the comments about TK's "Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue" that was being played extensively as our troops were heading out and going over there initially.
I like many of their songs -- still have them in play lists -- but I won't be going to any of the concerts.
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| Southtxponygirl - 2015-11-18 12:12 PM Red Raider - 2015-11-17 1:47 PM I know a lot has been written by the press about why the backlash was so bad, but no one talks about what was going through most people's minds at the time. In March 2003, we weren't that far removed from 9/11 and the push to be a united front of support that still came from it. Many people watched loved ones and friends join the military during the year or so before all this to make a difference and try to keep terrorism from happening on our soil again. People had been in heated debates whether or not war in Iraq was needed or was the best move.
The problem was that at the time Maines' made her statement, even if you were someone who objected to going to war in Iraq, it was a time when everybody was putting aside those thoughts and supporting our troops before they left. To make a statement like she did was like a petulant child stomping her foot in protest while the adults were bucking up, putting their feelings aside and giving support to those who were about to put their lives in danger and were saying goodbye to their families for the last time. The timing of it all was just particularly bad. I know in my rural part of Texas, it was more about the seeming lack of support for our troops at the time than the statements about Bush and the war itself. That's what people remembered and the way she kept running her mouth off about it just sealed the deal -- especially the comments about TK's "Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue" that was being played extensively as our troops were heading out and going over there initially.
I like many of their songs -- still have them in play lists -- but I won't be going to any of the concerts. You nailed it
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Location: Beggs, OK | 3canstorun - 2015-11-17 8:13 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-11-16 2:21 PM
Goodbye, Earl
Those black-eyed peas?
They tasted all right to me, Earl
You're feeling weak?
Why don't you lay down and sleep, Earl
Ain't it dark?
Wrapped up in that tarp, Earl
My best friend still calls my ex-husband Earl. She never called him by his name, lol |
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 Own It and Move On
Location: The edge of no where | For those that said they only slammed Bush - On March 10, 2003, during a London concert, nine days before the March 19, 2003 invasion of Iraq, lead vocalist Maines told the audience: "We don't want this war, this violence, and we're ashamed that the President of the United States (George W. Bush) is from Texas". The positive reaction to this statement from the British audience contrasted with the negative reaction including boycotts that ensued in the US, where the band was denounced by talk-show conservatives,[1] while their albums were discarded in public protest.
If they'd only made the comment about Bush - I'd have let it go....but considering what out country was going thru at the time, the comments regarding the war are not something I'll let go. |
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Location: Kansas | rachellyn80 - 2015-11-17 2:46 PM 3canstorun - 2015-11-17 8:13 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-11-16 2:21 PM
Goodbye, Earl
Those black-eyed peas?
They tasted all right to me, Earl
You're feeling weak?
Why don't you lay down and sleep, Earl
Ain't it dark?
Wrapped up in that tarp, Earl
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| MS2011 - 2015-11-17 3:36 PM
For those that said they only slammed Bush - On March 10, 2003, during a London concert, nine days before the March 19, 2003 invasion of Iraq, lead vocalist Maines told the audience: "We don't want this war, this violence, and we're ashamed that the President of the United States ( George W. Bush) is from Texas". The positive reaction to this statement from the British audience contrasted with the negative reaction including boycotts that ensued in the US, where the band was denounced by talk-show conservatives, [1] while their albums were discarded in public protest. If they'd only made the comment about Bush - I'd have let it go....but considering what out country was going thru at the time, the comments regarding the war are not something I'll let go.
I guess I take that is she isnt supporting Bush's decision. I dont take that as she doesnt support our troops. Hell, some of our soldiers didnt support that decision... doesnt mean they dont support one another.
I dont think it was a smart decision but I guess I am odd man out and interpret it differently. I am very supportive of our troops and I guess I just dont see that being unsupportive of them. Only what they're fighting for or going into but doesnt mean she doesnt support them.
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Location: Prosser, WA | Red Raider - 2015-11-17 11:47 AM
I know a lot has been written by the press about why the backlash was so bad, but no one talks about what was going through most people's minds at the time. In March 2003, we weren't that far removed from 9/11 and the push to be a united front of support that still came from it. Many people watched loved ones and friends join the military during the year or so before all this to make a difference and try to keep terrorism from happening on our soil again. People had been in heated debates whether or not war in Iraq was needed or was the best move.
The problem was that at the time Maines' made her statement, even if you were someone who objected to going to war in Iraq, it was a time when everybody was putting aside those thoughts and supporting our troops before they left. To make a statement like she did was like a petulant child stomping her foot in protest while the adults were bucking up, putting their feelings aside and giving support to those who were about to put their lives in danger and were saying goodbye to their families for the last time. The timing of it all was just particularly bad. I know in my rural part of Texas, it was more about the seeming lack of support for our troops at the time than the statements about Bush and the war itself. That's what people remembered and the way she kept running her mouth off about it just sealed the deal -- especially the comments about TK's "Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue" that was being played extensively as our troops were heading out and going over there initially.
I like many of their songs -- still have them in play lists -- but I won't be going to any of the concerts.
Exactly. I used to be a big fan and went to one of their concerts. The timing of her mouth and not shutting it after the fact makes me not even want to listen to them. Celebrities need to stick to looking pretty and doing their jobs and quit pushing their politics while doing their jobs. I wouldn't want a coworker to try to push their political agenda onme either. Just get back to work.Also their support of PETA and then their tacky shirts at an awards show. Pathetic. |
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Miss Southern Sunshine
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Location: South Central Florida | For me it was as much the classless remarks after. Calling fans names, hicks, stupid rednecks etc.....instead of jut letting it go. Then the FUTK thing.....it just went on and on. Country music is generally a.co servative audiance, that co servative audiance spent millions...why do you have to call them names. I dont have.to agree with everythi g people think, good friends and family...we dont agree. But once you start the bashing of someone instead of good conversation, healthy exchange of ideas...its over. Then being ****ed off because people stopped buying (givi g them money) their products. As I said before, Ill spend my money on someone new...give someone else a.chance. |
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Location: the end of the rainbow | I like a lot of their songs (good music) but have always hated their voices for some reason so I don't listen to them. I feel the same way about Leann Rymes and Kelly Pickler.
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Location: Central Texas | MS2011 - 2015-11-16 4:53 PM
Swannranch - 2015-11-16 4:38 PM I loved their music. I was not really mad about what they said as I was their total disrespect for the country and 90% of their fan base. I won't buy tickets. There are a million super talented people out there, I'll spend my money on someone that doesn't want to insult me.
I also disliked the FUTK T-shirt she wore the year she was up for entertainer of the year. I'll have to look for photo's of that.
^^this. She could pick on Bush and I'd have been ok with it and happily bought concert tickets......but running down America while overseas - she'll never see a dime from me. Overall - very talented singer and completely classless person.
This. I will pass. I hold grudges too long I guess but I would like a little respect and class shown by performers. |
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Location: Central Texas | Southtxponygirl - 2015-11-17 2:12 PM
Red Raider - 2015-11-17 1:47 PM I know a lot has been written by the press about why the backlash was so bad, but no one talks about what was going through most people's minds at the time. In March 2003, we weren't that far removed from 9/11 and the push to be a united front of support that still came from it. Many people watched loved ones and friends join the military during the year or so before all this to make a difference and try to keep terrorism from happening on our soil again. People had been in heated debates whether or not war in Iraq was needed or was the best move.
The problem was that at the time Maines' made her statement, even if you were someone who objected to going to war in Iraq, it was a time when everybody was putting aside those thoughts and supporting our troops before they left. To make a statement like she did was like a petulant child stomping her foot in protest while the adults were bucking up, putting their feelings aside and giving support to those who were about to put their lives in danger and were saying goodbye to their families for the last time. The timing of it all was just particularly bad. I know in my rural part of Texas, it was more about the seeming lack of support for our troops at the time than the statements about Bush and the war itself. That's what people remembered and the way she kept running her mouth off about it just sealed the deal -- especially the comments about TK's "Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue" that was being played extensively as our troops were heading out and going over there initially.
I like many of their songs -- still have them in play lists -- but I won't be going to any of the concerts.
You nailed it
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Funny how the sisters couldn't make it a go together and Natalie couldn't make it on her own. I guess they are broke and need to make some money..I wouldn't walk across the street to listen to them. |
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Location: North of the 49th Parallel | Nevertooold - 2015-11-18 2:12 PM Funny how the sisters couldn't make it a go together and Natalie couldn't make it on her own. I guess they are broke and need to make some money..I wouldn't walk across the street to listen to them.
The sisters had a pretty successful Bluegrass album and had a pretty decent following in that genre. But yes, Natalie's solo album sucked. |
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