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| Nevertooold - 2015-09-11 8:54 PM Just for the record..this is what this thread is about..
"Why do young girls get pregnant on purpose?" this is what I'm adressing and has nothing to do with mistakes...It's about young unwed girls that get married on purpose. Most of the time it is to try to trap a man or it is for money.
yep that happen in our family only they were in 20 late supposdely she on birth control he had a condom it broke
tried to get her to take morning after pill to be safe would not this was not a relationship but a basic quickie of a couple weeks
pregant wants the goodies does not get he want to be given up adoptopn but she keeps he pays for 18yrs
it that fair to the guy hell no yes they both played she refused both the pi;ll and adoption because she wanted him
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Location: So. California | Nevertooold - 2015-09-11 5:33 PM Anniemae - 2015-09-11 4:50 PM Why? Low self image, low self esteem, feeling they don't matter or are not enough. Feeling unloved... Some young ladies believe that having a baby will give them something to love and someone to love them back, without considering all the time, energy, committment and money that children require. Calling these girls stupid, ignorant, trapping a man, etc.. does nothing for the self image of these girls, in fact it damages them further. Not to mention there is the boy involved and he obviously didn't put a jacket on it, he's as much to blame in my book, but he receives far less finger pointing as it is much more acceptable for him to be sexually active in our society. Double standard.
And it doesn't just happen in the ghettos... jeez. Young, unmarried, single mothers come from every town, every walk of life, every income.. Though the vast majority of them are already living in low income/poverty and that is all the know or are taught. It doesn't have to be this way!
The real question we should be asking ourselves, how do we (I) make a difference? How can we teach these young girls that waiting for the right man, growing up (maturing) and getting an education gives them a better chance at the good life? How do we improve their self image, self confidence? There are so many programs out there that need volunteers; Big Sister, Church youth groups, Youth activity centers, Boys and Girls clubs, etc. It only takes a few hours of our time each week to volunteer. Sometimes the simple act of having an adult just listen to their story, providing a hug and empathy (without being judgemental) goes a long way.
Whatever their reasons, I just see children having children... I find it heartbreaking...
I'm sure this is in my response. Facts are facts and you can't change them. This doesn't only happen in the ghettos but the majority does. It's time for the black community to step up and change what is happening. Families make a huge difference and so many black families never know what it is to have a father.
On the other side...I personally know unwed single mothers that do great. They came from strong families and they went on to get a good education and good jobs that enabled them to be good caretakers. They had strong family values to push them forward instead of following in their mother's footsteps of being a welfare parent.
Racial or ethnic groupPercent of births considered "non-marital"Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders17 percent
Non-Hispanic whites29 percent
Hispanics53 percent
American Indian and Native Alaskans66 percent
Non-Hispanic blacks73 percent
Statistics can be found anywhere, and can be used to prove any point if you look hard enough. Though I don't doubt your stats, I certainly don't blame a single race for the problems associated with young, single women, intentially getting pregnant. I personally know more white females, unwed, young that are single parents - This is due to my demographic area. Doesn't change the fact that these young girls still got pregnant for the some of reasons I mentioned above.
You are right that it takes a village to raise a child and a community to change the tide!!
A third of all unintended pregnancies are to unmarried women in their 20s — about 60% ended in birth; 26% ended in abortion; and the rest ended in miscarriage.
Black and Hispanic women have the highest teen pregnancy rates — 100 and 84 per 1,000 women aged 15–19, respectively; whites have the lowest rate with 38 pregnancies per 1,000.
In 2013, 15% of the 1.6 million children born out of wedlock in the U.S. were to teenagers under age 20, 37% were to women ages 20 through 24
It's a huge problem, so how do we change the tide? How to teach these young ladies to have more self respect for themselves? What are the solutions? 1.6 million children were born in 2013 to teenagers, children themselves. Regardless of what stats you want to use, this is just a crying shame! | |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | I can't highlight on my phone but you asked what are the solutions? I say skill teaching in all areas but mainly in my demographic area cut off the money and quit seeing children as a pay check. You cut off money things change.
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| wickedstepmother - 2015-09-12 1:09 AM He can volumtarily sign over his rights if he's that serious about it. I wish my ex would.
were you talking about my post if so please elbaorate | |
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Location: Midwest | How about helping these people instead of condemning them? These young women who try to get pregnant in high school on purpose could use a positive influence in their lives.
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| because it the easiest way. They have no ambition have been taught that your bills are paid. We own a small rural retail pharmacy for the past 32 years and we are now seeing 4 generations of children of welfare having children of their own. They use to say we get our check on the 3rd now they say we get PAID on the 3rd, like they have a job. Its really hard for me to ask what have you done to get paid besides spit out kids from multiple BABY DADDIES. don't even get me started they get money, food, assisted housing, cell phones, medications and so many other benefits why should they work, they got it all now | |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I agree JBX. There is a reason so many young people think Bernie Sanders is great and it's not because they feel they should have to work for what they get. | |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | barrelracr131 - 2015-09-12 9:18 AM How about helping these people instead of condemning them? These young women who try to get pregnant in high school on purpose could use a positive influence in their lives.
"Be the change you wish to see in the world"
That's the problem. Liberal policies have been rewarding them for having kids out of wedlock for years. How about they start rewarding young girls that aren't getting paid for having kids out of wedlock? The cycle has to be broken in the ghettos where the probelm is the biggest. As long as they are getting paid for having these out of wedlock babies, nothing is going to change. It's a chosen lifestyle that they grew up with and they know nothing else. I had friends that use to go and tutor down in the Chicago projects and they said the only way these young girls could be helped is if they were totally taken out of that environment. | |
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| Anniemae - 2015-09-12 2:24 AM
Nevertooold - 2015-09-11 5:33 PM Anniemae - 2015-09-11 4:50 PM Why? Low self image, low self esteem, feeling they don't matter or are not enough. Feeling unloved... Some young ladies believe that having a baby will give them something to love and someone to love them back, without considering all the time, energy, committment and money that children require.  Calling these girls stupid, ignorant, trapping a man, etc.. does nothing for the self image of these girls, in fact it damages them further. Not to mention there is the boy involved and he obviously didn't put a jacket on it, he's as much to blame in my book, but he receives far less finger pointing as it is much more acceptable for him to be sexually active in our society. Double standard.
And it doesn't just happen in the ghettos... jeez.  Young, unmarried, single mothers come from every town, every walk of life, every income..  Though the vast majority of them are already living in low income/poverty and that is all the know or are taught. It doesn't have to be this way!
The real question we should be asking ourselves, how do we (I) make a difference? How can we teach these young girls that waiting for the right man, growing up (maturing) and getting an education gives them a better chance at the good life? How do we improve their self image, self confidence? There are so many programs out there that need volunteers; Big Sister, Church youth groups, Youth activity centers, Boys and Girls clubs, etc.  It only takes a few hours of our time each week to volunteer. Sometimes the simple act of having an adult just listen to their story, providing a hug and empathy (without being judgemental) goes a long way.Â
Whatever their reasons, I just see children having children...  I find it heartbreaking...Â
 I'm sure this is in my response. Facts are facts and you can't change them. This doesn't only happen in the ghettos but the majority does. It's time for the black community to step up and change what is happening. Families make a huge difference and so many black families never know what it is to have a father.
On the other side...I personally know unwed single mothers that do great. They came from strong families and they went on to get a good education and good jobs that enabled them to be good caretakers. They had strong family values to push them forward instead of following in their mother's footsteps of being a welfare parent.
Racial or ethnic groupPercent of births considered "non-marital"Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders17 percent
Non-Hispanic whites29 percent
Hispanics53 percent
American Indian and Native Alaskans66 percent
Non-Hispanic blacks73 percent
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You are right that it takes a village to raise a child and a community to change the tide!!A third of all unintended pregnancies are to unmarried women in their 20s  — about 60% ended in birth; 26% ended in abortion; and the rest ended in miscarriage. Black and Hispanic women have the highest teen pregnancy rates — 100 and 84 per 1,000 women aged 15–19, respectively; whites have the lowest rate with 38 pregnancies per 1,000. In 2013, 15% of the 1.6 million children born out of wedlock in the U.S. were to teenagers under age 20, 37% were to women ages 20 through 24 It's a huge problem, so how do we change the tide?  How to teach these young ladies to have more self respect for themselves? What are the solutions?  1.6 million children were born in 2013 to teenagers, children themselves.  Regardless of what stats you want to use, this is just a crying shame! Â
How to change it.
First petition television to quit having teen pregnancy shows.
Second petition government to implement medical temporary sterilization (depo, iud birth control teens cannot easily forget to take) until they reach a certain age | |
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Location: Midwest | Nevertooold - 2015-09-12 5:33 PM barrelracr131 - 2015-09-12 9:18 AM How about helping these people instead of condemning them? These young women who try to get pregnant in high school on purpose could use a positive influence in their lives.
"Be the change you wish to see in the world" That's the problem. Liberal policies have been rewarding them for having kids out of wedlock for years. How about they start rewarding young girls that aren't getting paid for having kids out of wedlock? The cycle has to be broken in the ghettos where the probelm is the biggest. As long as they are getting paid for having these out of wedlock babies, nothing is going to change. It's a chosen lifestyle that they grew up with and they know nothing else. I had friends that use to go and tutor down in the Chicago projects and they said the only way these young girls could be helped is if they were totally taken out of that environment.
I meant personally helping these people, not putting them on welfare. There are many opportunities to volunteer to help young women- and I'm not talking about money. | |
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Location: Texas | How are children suppose to know better when reality TV glorifies that kind of stuff, and the music that most of the younger generation listens to these days is all about sex, drugs, and money. Parents don't raise their children anymore, the TV does, or the smart phone does, or the tablet/computer does. Children aren't being taught right from wrong, and the society of today is a direct result. | |
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| vjls - 2015-09-12 6:28 AM
wickedstepmother - 2015-09-12 1:09 AM He can volumtarily sign over his rights if he's that serious about it. I wish my ex would.
were you talking about my post if so please elbaorateÂ
I'm not sure where you are, but here in Washington the bio father can voluntarily give up rights to the child. Then they no longer have rights to visitation, don't pay child support, nothing. In our case, my husband wants to adopt but the ex won't sign over rights so we'd have to petition the courts and that's a bit too expensive right now. | |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | barrelracr131 - 2015-09-13 7:41 AM Nevertooold - 2015-09-12 5:33 PM barrelracr131 - 2015-09-12 9:18 AM How about helping these people instead of condemning them? These young women who try to get pregnant in high school on purpose could use a positive influence in their lives.
"Be the change you wish to see in the world" That's the problem. Liberal policies have been rewarding them for having kids out of wedlock for years. How about they start rewarding young girls that aren't getting paid for having kids out of wedlock? The cycle has to be broken in the ghettos where the probelm is the biggest. As long as they are getting paid for having these out of wedlock babies, nothing is going to change. It's a chosen lifestyle that they grew up with and they know nothing else. I had friends that use to go and tutor down in the Chicago projects and they said the only way these young girls could be helped is if they were totally taken out of that environment.
And that is what my friends did when they tutored kids in Chicago. I had 40 horses to take care of after school so I never went. What did they get out of their efforts? One got smashed windows and another got their car stolen.
My sister worked at a facility to help disturbed young girls. She loved her job and she ended up with getting smashed on the back of the head with a 44 ounce tomato juice can. After the girl knocked her down to the ground she and her friends proceeded to kick her. They did it so they could get the keys of her car out of her purse and steal her car. When they were caught they said they were sorry as Karen had always been so nice to them but they wanted out. My sister has PTSD. She ended up with stitches in her head, a concussion and broken ribs.
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Location: Midwest | I'm sorry this happened, but there are plenty of girls in all walks of life that could use a positive influence. My small town has girls that could use counseling, too.
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