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| Can someone with more bit knowledge than me explain the functions and differences between the Goostree "delight", "simplicity", and "double gag bits?
My understanding is that the simplicity is suppose to be adjusted for immediate reaction, if you want immediate reaction, why does it slide the whole way? And also, what is the point of the "double gag", how is that suppose to work? Why is it different than the simplicity?
I own a delight and a simplicity and use them, I'm just trying to educate myself on why they are working. |
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Location: North Dakota | Here are some of the best descriptions I've read about these bits:
http://www.rockinmtack.com/Carol-Goostree-Custom-Barrel-Racing-Bits-s/14777.htm
And then there is this video that I like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtuJKWJPLGo
finally figured out how to make a link a link here! It's the little things.... |
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| I LOVE the double gag; I haven't had a horse that doesn't like it yet. I consider it my "go to" bit.
When you pick up on the rein with the double gag, the little ring with the mouthpiece is going to move/work first. If the horse doesn't respond, that's when the mouthpiece will continue to travel up the shank. Hence why it is called a "double gag" |
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| CheckItOut - 2013-11-19 9:07 AM Can someone with more bit knowledge than me explain the functions and differences between the Goostree "delight", "simplicity", and "double gag bits? My understanding is that the simplicity is suppose to be adjusted for immediate reaction, if you want immediate reaction, why does it slide the whole way? And also, what is the point of the "double gag", how is that suppose to work? Why is it different than the simplicity? I own a delight and a simplicity and use them, I'm just trying to educate myself on why they are working.
I love the simplicity. It doesn't slide all the way if it is adjusted right. One wrinkle in the corner of the mouth. It works a lot like a snaffle with direct pull, but when they get heavy you got some gag and leverage (on the bars and tongue because the shanks are an arc and are metal, unlike a loomis gag). You also get poll pressure (and chin if you use a chin strap, which I don't usually). |
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 Born not Made
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Location: North Dakota | I've got the simplicity and I love it!
Not the greatest picture, but this is how mine is adjusted. It never engages all the way. At the very most, only about 2/3 engaged. Usually when I need to pick up on the reins, it'll only engage about 1/2 of the length.
I ALWAYS use bit guards on any bit that had a gag. They are cheap to buy, and cheap insurance against my horse's mouths getting pinched.
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 Did I miss the party?
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| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtuJKWJPLGo |
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| I recently bought the simplicity bit and my mare didn't work like I thought she would in it. I did some research and you youtube at 'dena Kirkpatrick proper bit placement" you will see this...the bit placement of this bit is a lot of different than most bits and I bet most people are using it incorrectly. Hope this helps, as it did me!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39i-JydUGb4 |
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