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Barrelracingroper12
Reg. Jul 2011
Posted 2014-04-07 7:26 AM
Subject: I need advise on what to do...


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I don't know what route I should take...
I have a 12 year old bay QH gelding I've had him 6 years and I've hauled him alot in my time with him. This past weekend I ran him, rode him in the alley during the drag got off lead him back to the trailer & unsaddled I took him and hosed his legs off and then got to the trailer I tied him up and went to get my next horse ready. When I came back around the trailer he was bleeding out of his right nostril, not pouring but it was enough to cover his lip... I freaked out and had a few people look at him, an old school vet said not to worry about it, another man I know said the same thing since it wasn't severe l another vet I know said he was becoming a bleeder, I know about bleeders but not alot... In the last few months I have had trouble keeping weight on him, he's UTD on teeth, worming, ect I don't know If u should change feed put him on some supplements and run him again and see what happens or if I need to make an appointment at the vet school and have them look at him
Both vets said if it was him becoming a bleeder it wouldn't show up in blood work and one said It could never happen to him again... My bay is my baby... I just want to take care of him the best I can...
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2014-04-07 7:31 AM
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Contact a performance horse vet. You may need to run antibiotics through him and get him scoped.
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OhMax
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2014-04-07 7:48 AM
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Ditto ^^

I wouldn't take it lightly, I'd have a vet look at him and get a professional opinion before I started on a course of treatment...
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missroselee
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-04-07 8:27 AM
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 If he just bled he needs treated for that now.  You need to find a new vet for this.  Bleeding is not something to be taken lightly.  It can kill a horse if left untreated.  Find a good performance vet, treat him with antibiotics, research feed through supplements and ask your vet about lasix.

for supplements start with looking at THE pulmonez, equidites bleed block, and oxygens bleeder stop.  Also search the threads on here.  I started a thread a while back about bleeders.
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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2014-04-07 8:51 AM
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Watch out for the supplements and the lasix.  They constrict blood flow and can cause problems you don't want.  There has to be moderation.  We took a thoroughbred off the track at the age of 6.  He's 21 now and has been useless for all this time because of the overuse of these drugs.   His hooves didn't get proper blood flow.  Long story. 
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rodeowithjoker
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2014-04-07 10:27 AM
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missroselee - 2014-04-07 8:27 AM  If he just bled he needs treated for that now.  You need to find a new vet for this.  Bleeding is not something to be taken lightly.  It can kill a horse if left untreated.  Find a good performance vet, treat him with antibiotics, research feed through supplements and ask your vet about lasix.



for supplements start with looking at THE pulmonez, equidites bleed block, and oxygens bleeder stop.  Also search the threads on here.  I started a thread a while back about bleeders.

Yep, exactly. I'd say he doesn't get to run for at least 3-4 weeks and he needs antibiotics NOW. Not next week, in the next day if at all possible. Bleeding is pretty easy to manage and sometimes a horse will bleed once or twice randomly but not be a true bleeder.

When you do bring him back to running, take your time and get him in AMAZING condition - long distance work, hills, sprinting intervals, all sorts of things. He needs to feel and look like an absolute beast - take a look at the NFR horses and aim for that type of physical condition. We should all strive to have our horses in THAT shape, but especially a horse with any history of respiratory problems. Each year it takes me several months to get my old bay horse back in running shape because he's got some breathing issues and I don't want to create a bleeding problem by running him when he's not in tip-top condition.

And look up missroselee's thread on bleeders from a while back - it has a bunch of good information on there. Most of us on this board have had a bleeder at some point so feel free to ask questions......odds are there is someon else who has been there, done that and got the t-shirt. 
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missroselee
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-04-07 10:54 AM
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Frodo - 2014-04-07 9:51 AM Watch out for the supplements and the lasix.  They constrict blood flow and can cause problems you don't want.  There has to be moderation.  We took a thoroughbred off the track at the age of 6.  He's 21 now and has been useless for all this time because of the overuse of these drugs.   His hooves didn't get proper blood flow.  Long story. 

 Best case scenario is to figure out how to be able to manage them without lasix.  Most you can, many you can't.

keep in mind supplements and lasix are NOT the cure to bleeders.  If a horse is a true bleeder then you need to accommodate his feed, workouts, etc etc.  there are a lot of factors in keeping any horse healthy long term, not just meds.
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