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Tips to get one to come around faster on the 1st?

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Luv2trn3
Reg. Mar 2009
Posted 2018-10-15 11:17 PM
Subject: Tips to get one to come around faster on the 1st?


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I have a nice mare that has run 1 season. She has a beautiful, correct pattern. Doesn’t run off and isn’t a barrel hitter. She has been running about 1 second off the 1 D horses. I really thought she may not be “fast enough.” So I purchased an interval timing report at a big show and come to find out, she was faster that the horse that won it on the straight aways, but we were .5 slower coming around the 1st. What are some drills you do to get one to be more snappy on the 1st barrel?
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WYOracer
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2018-10-16 8:46 AM
Subject: RE: Tips to get one to come around faster on the 1st?



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I will counter arc leaving and smooch or even a tap on the butt with a hand quart can wake their feet up a bit and get a little more drive out of there. I would also look at your approach make sure you aren’t losing time there as well. Good luck!
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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2018-10-16 8:54 AM
Subject: RE: Tips to get one to come around faster on the 1st?


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Do you have a video?  Is she leaving straight and low or is her outside shoulder outside of the turn?  To be really efficient through a turn, turn, a horse must have an actual turn "point" where they plant and come back, allowing them to be flat and straight and really pushing out of a turn.  If that turn "point" is not in the correct spot, a horse has to either elevate or through the shoulder or hip to the outside leaving to avoid hitting the barrel, which then does not allow them to efficiently dig and drive away from a turn strong and flat.  It would be hard to recommend any drills or exercises without seeing what and where the turn needs to be improved.  

Sounds like you have a really nice mare!  Those last few tenths are the hardest to chip away at.  
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geronabean
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2018-10-16 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: Tips to get one to come around faster on the 1st?


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What I do to get those snappy finishes is...
To begin I dont rely on my inside rein to help them finish. This can result in a pulling match, bendy necks, wide exits and everytime you touch their face it slows you down.

I rely on my outside rein. MOST people's outside rein is on the horses neck at the exit to begin with, only they have not trained for this to mean anything to the horse. I train just the opposite of most... my outside rein touching the neck means MOVE THAT SHOULDER AND FINISH THAT TURN. This avoids the "bend" people get leaving a turn. A horse steps over and leaves straight when I ask for that finish. I train all my horses a beginning reining spin (altered for my training style of turn), not for the spin but the mechanics, body and shoulder movements, the hand position and the face position. These are all very important in teaching that the outside rein means finish.

So I get to my 3/4 exit, the outside rein hits the neck and BAM that horse knows to move that shoulder and leave straight... I guess this is all assuming that your entrance and the horses body position are proper as well...
a snappy finish starts at the entrance!!

Edited by geronabean 2018-10-16 9:42 AM
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2018-10-16 9:36 AM
Subject: RE: Tips to get one to come around faster on the 1st?



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What I do is to LEAVE a turn one stride faster than I went in. Walk in, trot out. Trot in, Lope out. Lope in Run out. Gets a horse to anticipate leaving and firing on the back side.
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JLazyT_perf_horses
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2018-10-16 11:06 AM
Subject: RE: Tips to get one to come around faster on the 1st?



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I tried a drill I saw on facebook a couple months ago, it helped quite a bit. I was wanting to do something different and it seemed like it might work. Here's the link, hopefully everyone can see it.

https://www.facebook.com/cheryl.fisher.524/posts/10157798116579768
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Mzbradford
Reg. Jun 2015
Posted 2018-10-17 1:33 PM
Subject: RE: Tips to get one to come around faster on the 1st?



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Herbie - 2018-10-16 8:54 AM

Do you have a video?  Is she leaving straight and low or is her outside shoulder outside of the turn?  To be really efficient through a turn, turn, a horse must have an actual turn "point" where they plant and come back, allowing them to be flat and straight and really pushing out of a turn.  If that turn "point" is not in the correct spot, a horse has to either elevate or through the shoulder or hip to the outside leaving to avoid hitting the barrel, which then does not allow them to efficiently dig and drive away from a turn strong and flat.  It would be hard to recommend any drills or exercises without seeing what and where the turn needs to be improved.  

Sounds like you have a really nice mare!  Those last few tenths are the hardest to chip away at.  

totally agree here. Also, stevi has a good video on quickening the feet on TBH.

https://www.trainingbarrelhorses.com/video-vault/barrel-horse-traini...
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