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| FlyingJT - 2014-01-16 10:18 AM angelica - 2014-01-16 8:27 AM I can't believe they still use a paddle at your school. If my child came home and said he was paddled I would be in jail because I would go to the school and do the same to whoever decided they had the right to touch my child!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The school my kids go to still paddle. You sign a consent form at the beginning of the year.
That's why you probably wouldn't choose to send your kid to a private Christian school where it is policy. I would really rather do it myself than have someone else do it but that's an individual choice. When my kids were in school they weren't paddled but if they got in trouble they got a pretty good one when they got home. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | runs4fun - 2014-01-16 9:19 AM I was telling this story to a teacher friend of mine and she said, "Reading, is entertainment for many, including myself. Having said that, many kids prefer to "play" for entertainment, "visit" for entertainment or "doodle" on their paper for entertainment or because they are bored with what I'm teaching I cannot chastize one child for his choice of entertainment while he ignores what's going on in class and allow it from another regardless of what it is....when I say attention up front, that's what I expect. It's not really a problem,though, unless it's habitual, then we have a parent/teacher conference." Apparently, it is not that uncommon of an occurence. I guess she had a point in that kids can get "caught up" in all kinds of things. I know I certainly can and sometimes it's just my own private thoughts that diverts my attention which tended to happen a lot when I was in school (daydreaming), and, of course, I enjoyed visiting! I liked to read but usually did most of that at home if it were library books etc.
That brings another issue to mind. I rarely would look at teachers during a lecture. I would look down, stare off into space, doodle on paper...totally appear that I wasn't paying attention. But that's how I listened because I'm more of a visual learner and looking at faces is distracting to me. Once they figured me out, it was fine, but until they got to know me, I would get fussed at a lot. It still bothers my husband sometimes that I appear to not be listening to him when I'm actually listening the hardest. LOL My poor boy child is the same way. Bless him, he inherited some difficult genetics.  |
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Location: Oregon | I would definitely say not looking at whoever is talking to you is a learned habit, not genetic. The cycle can be broken. You don't have to look people in the face, if you look directly below their face it is less annoying and more respectful to the speaker and not as hard on the listener if this is a problem. A lot of people don't like to make eye contact but there are ways to fake it.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | crapshooter - 2014-01-16 11:56 AM
I would definitely say not looking at whoever is talking to you is a learned habit, not genetic. The cycle can be broken. You don't have to look people in the face, if you look directly below their face it is less annoying and more respectful to the speaker and not as hard on the listener if this is a problem. A lot of people don't like to make eye contact but there are ways to fake it.
I dunno, my dad physically can't do it. His eyes start twitching back and forth. A lot of his mother's family are the same way. I can make eye contact when meeting or greeting or reaming someone out, but I can't hold it in a peaceful way. I get what you're saying about looking in the vicinity of the person tho, and that's what I do in a personal conversation. But not in a lecture or meeting type atmosphere. |
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Location: Oregon | where did the post about the treasure trove chest go? lol I was quoting it and laughing and it disappeared! |
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Location: Oregon | Three 4 Luck - 2014-01-16 10:06 AM crapshooter - 2014-01-16 11:56 AM I would definitely say not looking at whoever is talking to you is a learned habit, not genetic. The cycle can be broken. You don't have to look people in the face, if you look directly below their face it is less annoying and more respectful to the speaker and not as hard on the listener if this is a problem. A lot of people don't like to make eye contact but there are ways to fake it. I dunno, my dad physically can't do it. His eyes start twitching back and forth. A lot of his mother's family are the same way. I can make eye contact when meeting or greeting or reaming someone out, but I can't hold it in a peaceful way. I get what you're saying about looking in the vicinity of the person tho, and that's what I do in a personal conversation. But not in a lecture or meeting type atmosphere.
You can probably break this cycle though with your kid. Learned behavior is fascinating. Unless it's like asbergers or something I can't imagine it can't be changed.
I am picturing you as a head bobbing twitchy anti social person reading a book under the table. Now c'mon! LOL |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | crapshooter - 2014-01-16 12:26 PM where did the post about the treasure trove chest go? lol I was quoting it and laughing and it disappeared!
LOL I decided teachers who use bras as purses and mispronounce Miguel were not pertinent to the conversation. She was a character! A black woman named Willie Mae Washington. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | crapshooter - 2014-01-16 12:30 PM
Three 4 Luck - 2014-01-16 10:06 AM crapshooter - 2014-01-16 11:56 AM I would definitely say not looking at whoever is talking to you is a learned habit, not genetic. The cycle can be broken. You don't have to look people in the face, if you look directly below their face it is less annoying and more respectful to the speaker and not as hard on the listener if this is a problem. A lot of people don't like to make eye contact but there are ways to fake it. I dunno, my dad physically can't do it. His eyes start twitching back and forth. A lot of his mother's family are the same way. I can make eye contact when meeting or greeting or reaming someone out, but I can't hold it in a peaceful way. I get what you're saying about looking in the vicinity of the person tho, and that's what I do in a personal conversation. But not in a lecture or meeting type atmosphere.
I am picturing you as a head bobbing twitchy anti social person reading a book under the table. Now c'mon! LOL
You nailed me. LOL I'm really not that bad, but I was a difficult child to raise and teach. I feel bad for my parents and teachers now because I am definitely paying for my raising! Thank goodness for my daughter, who takes after her daddy. She's sweet natured and easy to discipline. Total teacher's pet. She's lucky to have me for a mama to temper some of that people pleasing rule follower mentality she has. Haha. My son does have Sensory Processing disorder, which is on the autism spectrum, but not anything like what you think of as classic autism. My dad has it too. I don't think that's an issue here tho. We are, however, about to get an official diagnosis so he can get food aversion therapy. |
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Location: South Georgia | bocephus's mama - 2014-01-14 3:36 PM Maybe you don't know her side. If it wasn't that big of a deal, she wouldn't be having a conference. Once you get there, if she lays things out to you exactly as you said, THEN make a big deal but unless you've actually talked with her at this point, I'd hear her out.
As a high schol teacher myself, I completely agree with this. There are two sides. I promise you she would not be taking time out of her crazy schedule to arrange a conference if there was not an issue that needed to be dealt with. Just my two cents. |
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Location: South Georgia | Three 4 Luck - 2014-01-16 10:40 AM runs4fun - 2014-01-16 9:19 AM I was telling this story to a teacher friend of mine and she said, "Reading, is entertainment for many, including myself. Having said that, many kids prefer to "play" for entertainment, "visit" for entertainment or "doodle" on their paper for entertainment or because they are bored with what I'm teaching I cannot chastize one child for his choice of entertainment while he ignores what's going on in class and allow it from another regardless of what it is....when I say attention up front, that's what I expect. It's not really a problem,though, unless it's habitual, then we have a parent/teacher conference." Apparently, it is not that uncommon of an occurence. I guess she had a point in that kids can get "caught up" in all kinds of things. I know I certainly can and sometimes it's just my own private thoughts that diverts my attention which tended to happen a lot when I was in school (daydreaming), and, of course, I enjoyed visiting! I liked to read but usually did most of that at home if it were library books etc. That brings another issue to mind. I rarely would look at teachers during a lecture. I would look down, stare off into space, doodle on paper...totally appear that I wasn't paying attention. But that's how I listened because I'm more of a visual learner and looking at faces is distracting to me. Once they figured me out, it was fine, but until they got to know me, I would get fussed at a lot. It still bothers my husband sometimes that I appear to not be listening to him when I'm actually listening the hardest. LOL My poor boy child is the same way. Bless him, he inherited some difficult genetics.
Not making eye contact with another person is not a genetic trait; it is a learned behavior. However, it is also often a visible sign that self confidence is lacking. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I don't lack the ability. I find it distracting to hold it and can listen better if I'm not visually focused on anything. |
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Location: South Georgia | Three 4 Luck - 2014-01-16 2:30 PM I don't lack the ability. I find it distracting to hold it and can listen better if I'm not visually focused on anything.
Hmm. That is interesting to me. I have never heard anyone say that before. Thank you, actually. I am always open to hearing how people learn differently and/or better. I will keep this in mind. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I can get absorbed by someone's mole or the hair on their chin or their wild eye brow hair or the stain on their shirt...always something, so if I'm really listening, I'm not visually focused anywhere. Because the visual overwhelms the hearing. If you put closed captioning on TV, I will find myself reading it instead of listening to the dialogue. |
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Location: Oregon | I sometimes have trouble deciphering what is said also, it's like bla bla bla BLA BLA BLA. But can read the same thing and instantly understand. Wonder what disorder that is? Maybe I can get disability pay for it. |
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