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Location: where ever my L/Q trl is parked | GLP - 2015-07-01 1:22 PM I agree with missroselee. My sister almost lost a very good mare at a big futurity because a well known person was on a golf cart, racing around corners and such drunk as a skunk. My sister's horse was tied at her own trailer when the a** ran into her. I would love to have them banned, but I know I am in the minority and it is not going to happen.
In reply to this - did your sister see this happen and if so did she think to call the police even if it might have happened on private property? I believe no matter where it happened it's still a DUI/DWI offense.
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Location: South Central Florida | If he was not on a golf cart, what would have stopped him from being in a truck and doing the same thing. If he was stupid enough and willing to drive drunk, banning something would not have changed it...just his vehicle. | |
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Location: South Central Florida | Bibliafarm - 2015-07-02 10:58 PM I dont think anyone is referring directly to the accident or a accident..I know Im not.......
with atvs you are putting alot of people at risk not yourself.. horses spook etc.. a golf cart at least isnt as dangerous at large events.. you can say your careful and thats fine but if a horse spooked or ran into your path etc.. accidents happen.. accidents happen doing anything yes.. but there are times when its risky ..and if it cna be avoided then great...... is all I personally am saying..
Well, if banning 4 wheelers and golf carts would cut the accidents on the grounds say in half. Why not ban the whole event, then you would eliminate all the risk. I have seen horses slip and fall on concrete just walking, I've seen horses kick, buck and body slam other horses at events...on the grounds in the holding pen and every where in between. Equestrian events are dangerous. 1100 lb anmals running 20 mph is dangerous. Any time you have a thousand people and horses together all in one area...the risk of injury increases.
As far as those that say "no one NEEDS a 4 wheeler or golf cart". How can you say that? How do you know what someone else can or can not do. I walk 5 miles a day 6 days a week. I have good friends with bad knees that could never make the walk necessary at some of the shows. I think assuming everyone can carry saddels, tack, feed, medications every thing necessary back and forth half a dozen times a day is totaly arrogant. That's what I don't understand about some of these threads. The arrogance that some people think their way is THE ONY WAY....If you don't do it like them your selfish and lazy and dumb.
For the record, I don't have a golf cart, or a 4 wheeler and rarely have enough money to rent one, but I would never assume that others need to do it MY way or they are lazy.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Swannranch - 2015-07-03 10:35 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-07-02 10:58 PM I dont think anyone is referring directly to the accident or a accident..I know Im not.......
with atvs you are putting alot of people at risk not yourself.. horses spook etc.. a golf cart at least isnt as dangerous at large events.. you can say your careful and thats fine but if a horse spooked or ran into your path etc.. accidents happen.. accidents happen doing anything yes.. but there are times when its risky ..and if it cna be avoided then great...... is all I personally am saying..
As far as those that say "no one NEEDS a 4 wheeler or golf cart". How can you say that? How do you know what someone else can or can not do. I walk 5 miles a day 6 days a week. I have good friends with bad knees that could never make the walk necessary at some of the shows. I think assuming everyone can carry saddels, tack, feed, medications every thing necessary back and forth half a dozen times a day is totaly arrogant. That's what I don't understand about some of these threads. The arrogance that some people think their way is THE ONY WAY....If you don't do it like them your selfish and lazy and dumb.
For the record, I don't have a golf cart, or a 4 wheeler and rarely have enough money to rent one, but I would never assume that others need to do it MY way or they are lazy.
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Location: Florida.. | Swannranch - 2015-07-03 11:35 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-07-02 10:58 PM I dont think anyone is referring directly to the accident or a accident..I know Im not.......
with atvs you are putting alot of people at risk not yourself.. horses spook etc.. a golf cart at least isnt as dangerous at large events.. you can say your careful and thats fine but if a horse spooked or ran into your path etc.. accidents happen.. accidents happen doing anything yes.. but there are times when its risky ..and if it cna be avoided then great...... is all I personally am saying..
As far as those that say "no one NEEDS a 4 wheeler or golf cart". How can you say that? How do you know what someone else can or can not do. I walk 5 miles a day 6 days a week. I have good friends with bad knees that could never make the walk necessary at some of the shows. I think assuming everyone can carry saddels, tack, feed, medications every thing necessary back and forth half a dozen times a day is totaly arrogant. That's what I don't understand about some of these threads. The arrogance that some people think their way is THE ONY WAY....If you don't do it like them your selfish and lazy and dumb.
For the record, I don't have a golf cart, or a 4 wheeler and rarely have enough money to rent one, but I would never assume that others need to do it MY way or they are lazy.
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| About a year ago in TX, a woman was helping a student get into the arena. Hers student came out and the person who was next lost control of her horse. The woman standing there was hit and killed instantly. Personally, I think banning horses at a barrel race would have prevented this. | |
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| Aqhaczy - 2015-07-03 1:04 PM
GLP - 2015-07-01 1:22 PM I agree with missroselee. My sister almost lost a very good mare at a big futurity because a well known person was on a golf cart, racing around corners and such drunk as a skunk. My sister's horse was tied at her own trailer when the a** ran into her. I would love to have them banned, but I know I am in the minority and it is not going to happen.
In reply to this - did your sister see this happen and if so did she think to call the police even if it might have happened on private property?  I believe no matter where it happened it's still a DUI/DWI offense.Â
Yes she did. She didn't think to call the police, she was to busy taking care of the mare. The mare went down with one hind leg under the trailer. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | streakysox - 2015-07-04 2:06 PM About a year ago in TX, a woman was helping a student get into the arena. Hers student came out and the person who was next lost control of her horse. The woman standing there was hit and killed instantly. Personally, I think banning horses at a barrel race would have prevented this. Good Grief....some of the responses in this thread are just plain asinine......NOBODY is saying that horse events, etc are NOT dangerous.....only that "perhaps".....(note the word "perhaps") banning or enforcing rules for the use of certain things (Atvs, golf carts, dogs, etc, etc) would CERTAINLY make them a little safer !
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Location: Florida.. | NJJ - 2015-07-04 5:36 PM streakysox - 2015-07-04 2:06 PM About a year ago in TX, a woman was helping a student get into the arena. Hers student came out and the person who was next lost control of her horse. The woman standing there was hit and killed instantly. Personally, I think banning horses at a barrel race would have prevented this. Good Grief....some of the responses in this thread are just plain asinine......NOBODY is saying that horse events, etc are NOT dangerous.....only that "perhaps".....(note the word "perhaps") banning or enforcing rules for the use of certain things (Atvs, golf carts, dogs, etc, etc) would CERTAINLY make them a little safer !
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2015-07-04 4:36 PM streakysox - 2015-07-04 2:06 PM About a year ago in TX, a woman was helping a student get into the arena. Hers student came out and the person who was next lost control of her horse. The woman standing there was hit and killed instantly. Personally, I think banning horses at a barrel race would have prevented this. Good Grief....some of the responses in this thread are just plain asinine......NOBODY is saying that horse events, etc are NOT dangerous.....only that "perhaps".....(note the word "perhaps") banning or enforcing rules for the use of certain things (Atvs, golf carts, dogs, etc, etc) would CERTAINLY make them a little safer !
We all knew about that horrible day, but I thought this was about having ATV's and golf carts being run by kids and not paying attention to their surroundings, not the horses being the problem. I agree with you Norma the reponses are getting really silly.  | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I think all the ATV's and golf carts should have an adult riding with a child, no kids aloud on ATV's and golf carts without an adult period.............. | |
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Location: South Central Florida | Bibliafarm - 2015-07-04 9:58 AM
Swannranch - 2015-07-03 11:35 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-07-02 10:58 PM I dont think anyone is referring directly to the accident or a accident..I know Im not.......
 with atvs you are putting alot of people at risk not yourself.. horses spook etc.. a golf cart at least isnt as dangerous at large events..  you can say your careful and thats fine but if a horse spooked or ran into your path etc.. accidents happen.. accidents happen doing anything yes.. but there are times when its risky ..and if it cna be avoided then great...... is all I personally am saying..
As far as those that say "no one NEEDS a 4 wheeler or golf cart". How can you say that? How do you know what someone else can or can not do. I walk 5 miles a day 6 days a week. I have good friends with bad knees that could never make the walk necessary at some of the shows. I think assuming everyone can carry saddels, tack, feed, medications every thing necessary back and forth half a dozen times a day is totaly arrogant. That's what I don't understand about some of these threads. The arrogance that some people think their way is THE ONY WAY....If you don't do it like them your selfish and lazy and dumb.Â
For the record, I don't have a golf cart, or a 4 wheeler and rarely have enough money to rent one, but I would never assume that others need to do it MY way or they are lazy. Â
 Im sorry, I didnt mean my response to sound so snarky to you. I was mainly talking about someone who said "you dont need one, you just want one"...how could anyone know that? I dont believe on banning things. NBHA Youth World has a very strict policy and it is inforced. Had a.friend...a director's daughter get hurt. She was walking back from feeding, friend (youth) offerred her a ride...no speeding bo goofi g off, they hit a pothole and the vehicle flipped. She broke her ankle, but was also disqualified as were everyone on the vehicle (3 I think). I understand this thread is about banning AT 's and gold carts, but because people use comparisions the original poster doesnt agree with isnt the same as changing the topic...its called conversation. I do think this was about the little girl at AA, why else say "in light of". | |
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Location: Florida.. | oh its all ok.it didnt really sound snarky.lol..we all were responding to differant things .. | |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | I am surprised someone has not been killed at Youth World....between the golf carts........vehicles......and add water balloons water guns.......and all the other mess going on it is not safe............but lets not step on any toes........its like kids gone wild............ | |
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Location: Dubach, LA | No parent would turn a kid loose on a four-wheeler, scooter, golf-cart, bicycle, or horse in a WalMart or Lowe's parking lot, so why is it okay to do so at a barrel race? It may be your vacation, but it's not a place to turn your kids loose. | |
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| CanCan - 2015-07-05 7:27 PM No parent would turn a kid loose on a four-wheeler, scooter, golf-cart, bicycle, or horse in a WalMart or Lowe's parking lot, so why is it okay to do so at a barrel race? It may be your vacation, but it's not a place to turn your kids loose.
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Location: Broxton, Ga | rodeomom3 - 2015-07-04 8:32 PM
CanCan - 2015-07-05 7:27 PM No parent would turn a kid loose on a four-wheeler, scooter, golf-cart, bicycle, or horse in a WalMart or Lowe's parking lot, so why is it okay to do so at a barrel race? It may be your vacation, but it's not a place to turn your kids loose.
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