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Location: NW. Florida | I've noticed after a run this weekend my horse sneazes a few times. It's got me questioning if he may be bleeding internally. Has anyone had experience with this? |
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Location: Great NW | yes that is one of the signs. some other signs are starting to blow the third barrel wide, feeling like they have no more to give or slowing down from 2nd barrel on, gate issues can start. I would have him scoped |
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Location: NW. Florida | That's the only thing he's doing at this point, but I don't want it to develope into anything either. He's on THE Muscle Mass and it's time to re-order. I guess it wouldn't hurt to talk with Bob to see if he thinks adding something would help, or just go have him scoped. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | bleeding is one thing i dont really dont mess around with(well maybe i do as i have only ever had one scoped)..........if your horse is bleeding (and sounds very much like he is)........he needs a round of antibiotics and time off(4 to 6 weeks) and then pick your choice of bleeder med...................
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | mruggles - 2014-02-04 4:34 PM bleeding is one thing i dont really dont mess around with(well maybe i do as i have only ever had one scoped)..........if your horse is bleeding (and sounds very much like he is)........he needs a round of antibiotics and time off(4 to 6 weeks) and then pick your choice of bleeder med...................
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This....no supplement in my mind is going to fix it. Take him to the vet to be scoped and start using Lasix or something similar. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | CYA Ranch - 2014-02-05 3:36 PM mruggles - 2014-02-04 4:34 PM bleeding is one thing i dont really dont mess around with(well maybe i do as i have only ever had one scoped)..........if your horse is bleeding (and sounds very much like he is)........he needs a round of antibiotics and time off(4 to 6 weeks) and then pick your choice of bleeder med...................
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| If you suspect he is bleeding then you should take him to a vet and have him scoped after you run. Then go from there
ETA: There are a lot reasons a horse can bleed, or would be sneezing after you run that is why you should have him scoped instead of just treating him like a bleeder. I strongly suggest a trachea wash also. But he could have inflammation in his airways, poll-yups, infection or numerous other things going on.
Edited by Rope-N-Run 2014-02-04 5:38 PM
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Other less obvious signs of bleeding is lack of drinking after a run and coughing.
I for one disagree on one thing. I believe a bleeder can be maintained without lasix at some point, but it takes a lot of work to get there.
If he has already bled, then in my opinion, like some other posters, he needs treated for that before you do anything else. A bleeder left untreated can end very badly. We had a top horse on the east coast almost die two years ago because he had bled, showed no signs, and ended up with a lung infection.
There are ways you can get your horse diagnosed now even without scoping him right after a work. I did it with my horse and had the fluids analyzed to know exactly what bacteria was in his lungs and what stage he was at. A complete work up with scope, extra sedation (he kept bending catheters in his throat), and a few extra things thrown in only cost me around 700.
I gave my horse a few months off, and after he was off his meds, I started him on a diet/supplement regemin even before he went into training again. Even with all that he ran on lasix for several months before being weaned off.
He's been off lasix six months now and doing awesome. We track EVERYTHING. Right down to exactly how much water he drinks, count breaths, time how fast he recovers his breathing, etc etc. He is off again right now only because of my health issues and the weather, but when I run him at the BBR finals I plan on lining up a vet to scope him there just to see how everything is doing. |
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Location: NW. Florida | missroselee - 2014-02-04 7:54 PM Other less obvious signs of bleeding is lack of drinking after a run and coughing.
I for one disagree on one thing. I believe a bleeder can be maintained without lasix at some point, but it takes a lot of work to get there.
If he has already bled, then in my opinion, like some other posters, he needs treated for that before you do anything else. A bleeder left untreated can end very badly. We had a top horse on the east coast almost die two years ago because he had bled, showed no signs, and ended up with a lung infection.
There are ways you can get your horse diagnosed now even without scoping him right after a work. I did it with my horse and had the fluids analyzed to know exactly what bacteria was in his lungs and what stage he was at. A complete work up with scope, extra sedation (he kept bending catheters in his throat), and a few extra things thrown in only cost me around 700.
I gave my horse a few months off, and after he was off his meds, I started him on a diet/supplement regemin even before he went into training again. Even with all that he ran on lasix for several months before being weaned off.
He's been off lasix six months now and doing awesome. We track EVERYTHING. Right down to exactly how much water he drinks, count breaths, time how fast he recovers his breathing, etc etc. He is off again right now only because of my health issues and the weather, but when I run him at the BBR finals I plan on lining up a vet to scope him there just to see how everything is doing.
He hasn't bled yet. He's sneazing two or three times after a run. It just happened this past weekend, so it's got me thinking he may be bleeding. |
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