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| I have a gelding I'm planning on running barrels with next year.
I've only been riding him about a month now.. And he has one issue I can't seem to figure out.
He is super bendy, and when he feels my inside leg go on he instantly arcs his neck and bends his whole body around my leg. The only issue is that he will not move away from my inside leg.. As in going to make the circle bigger.. The more inside leg I use the more he wants to bend around it.
I don't have much history on him.. So not sure how much he knows. He doesn't know how to neck rein, and does better in a halter than a bit.
Should I just work on leg yielding in a straight line before I do circles? Any advice would be great. I'm pretty rusty as I haven't ridden much in the last couple years. So is probably just something Im doing wrong. |
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  Twin Sister to Queen Boobie
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Where are your both your hands and legs, and where is your seat?
When I want to bend and make a circle bigger, I keep the nose tilted and lift inside rein, and my inside shoulder, open the outside rein, use more inside leg and open the outside leg, and my seat is heavier to the inside.
I start out with lateral ground work - side pass. And I also work on moving them out laterally when I'm lunging - make the circle bigger.
When I ride, I do start out with 1-2 strides of a leg yield on a straight line. Then I build up from there. |
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 Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | this is my way but I know barrel racers are a tad differant in training ....I really dont know how to train a barrel horse..Id think lateral work and getting the body to go where you want would be the same (moving one out on a circle with engagement ) but I am not sure. 
The biggest mistake I see in riders is they use to much inside rein thinking it will turn and bend the horse.. and to much inside leg to wrap or turn without having the outside rein.. that outside rein is your guiding force if you want to have the whole horses body wrap not just the head neck..Id work on lateral work to straight line to get the feel..you stay light and steady on outside rein so its a finesse rein but you dont give it or take to much.. steady...
you stay balanced and use your pelvis to push horse over and apply steady pressure on outside open it up and low to let horse come down some and his body will arch when you apply slight leg pressure even if you have to position inside leg back a lil to get hind engaged. your goal is to get hte Hind and Body to work not the neck head. if you want it correctly so when your going you have control.. it sounds like hes overly bendy already so why pull on inside? you dont want to. you want him to search go to Outside rein giving inside rein slightly to give him room....and when hes moving over stay steady contact with it by your knee.stay centered but push down with inside pelvis to push him over .let the horse come down and over and he will bend in but not overbend.. you have to have control of his shoulders and so you need his hind.
Edited by Bibliafarm 2015-10-25 11:53 AM
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I just read the headlines
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| My SIL had a mare like that. She was taught that the more you used your inside leg the tighter her turn should be. I had a hard time retraining her, but I was able to do it. It may be that he was trained that way.
My SIL didn't realize this until she got her home. She called the owner and the owner confirmed this is the way she trained her horses.
Edited by GLP 2015-10-25 8:27 AM
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 Total Germophobe
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Location: Montana | My mare is trained that way, but if you guide her with her outside rein she usually won't just wrap. |
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Sock Snob
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| I have been riding for 47 years not that makes me a trainer, but had some nice cridders. I used to buy young horses and start them and sell them. I got a dash for perks bred gelding that would not move off your leg very much, the more you tried he just did not get it. I got him going aroind barrels, forgot who i sold him to, he still made a decent barrel horse, but not for me. I have started not less than 50/60 horses. |
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 Some Kind of Trouble
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| Sounds like a simple thing, but have you tried changing your inside leg position... my mare sounds like the same style and I finally realized if I move my leg back I get more of the reaction I want. And more work on a straight line has helped. |
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The Advice Guru
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| It sounds like the horse isn't broke.
My guess you are going to have to train the horse reverse arc, etc |
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 Accident Prone
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Set him up to succeed and reward the smallest effort. Then build on it. I will use a fence if I have to, to help them understand what lateral movement is. Working trees in the woods helps too. Might want to wear body armor at first tho (speaking from experience LOL)
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