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| what are your protocols when a new horse enters into your boarding facility. quarantine for how long? what happens if you find out they have no shots etc? would you even let them on property?? If they are showing clinical signs of strangles/ EHV/ EWN/ etc what would you do? Who is liable if other horses contract said virus??? barn manager/ horse owner??? are you liable to sue? equine disease cousel need to be notified? would you still go to shows? If you knew a facility close to where you are showing has confirmed cases would you still go??? We have been having too many confirmed cases lately and wanted to know everyone's thoughts bc it is a pretty serious issue. People need to be alert and know what needs to be done. | |
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| I would let all current and prospective boarders know that before bringing in a new horse, it must be vaccinated for at least the core diseases (depending on what vaccines you want- some places require strangles, others do not, for example) and de-wormed within the last six months. If the horse is new to them and they don’t know the history, I would mandate the horse be vaccinated and de-wormed within the first few days of arrival. Even if the horse has been vaccinated, I would quarantine for at least 2-3 weeks before allowing them to have contact with other horses on the premises, which means they should not be allowed to be in “common areas” like arenas, round pens, etc. If a horse is showing signs, like with strangles, I would absolutely quarantine until two consecutive negative PCR panels have come back. As far as that goes, if you allowed the horse on the premises without an introductory quarantine period to watch for any symptoms, then the bills are on you. If it is strangles or a reportable disease, your treating vet will have to report it to the state. Even if my horses were vaccinated properly and I knew there was an outbreak somewhere, I still might not even go. Vaccines are only so effective, and it would depend on the disease and facility, how they have managed it, and if the show/rodeo was that important or if it could be skipped. ETA: reportable diseases are different in every state, so your treating veterinarian should know what diseases to vaccinate for in your area, and what they would need to report.
Edited by madredepeanut 2019-05-06 9:34 PM
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  Location: Illinois | Every place is going to have different protocols and rules. Where I'm at there's no quarantine phase, no required vaccinations, & no regulations on deworming. Mine are fully vaccinated since I haul. Anything that happens to a horse is solely the owners responsibility, even if another gets mine sick or kicks mine and breaks a leg, etc. I'm the only boarder currently so it's limited as to new horses coming in and out so it isn't that bad. We have nowhere to quarantine one if it were to get sick. The last few places I was at didn't even require a coggins, on top of no required vetwork/vaccines/etc. Kind of opposite of what I would do and wish more places did. I once boarded at a place where they had a quarantine stall barn set up and your horse was there for the first 30 days. It had it's own tunrout spot away from any of the others and the basic reccomended shots for the area & coggins were required. I liked that, I would do similar if I had my own place and the space for it. If a horse comes in with visible sickness, like strangles or something I would give them 24 hours to find a new place, unless I had a good quarantine spot. Then make the vet mandaory to be out within 24 hours to begin rectifying the situation. Tell them if other horses contract it becasue they brought it in then the vet bill is on them. If it's something where the horse has been vacinated and there are no recognizable symptoms & no one is aware, then that's probably a different case. But something like strangles, if you knowingly bring your horse that has it into someones barn then any others that get it are your financial responsibility. | |
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       Location: Washington | No protocol here, other then being UTD with worming since we rotate pens. Horses will be turned away if thin or look ill or malnurished. It is not my job to revive horses. Yes we have turned horses away for these reasons. When you board, it's same when you haul, you have no control over what your horse is exposed to, so best to vaccinate. Before we owned a facility, we were not big on vaccinating, we had "control" over what our horses were exposed to. Now with an open facility ours are vaccinated to the max because we have so many coming and going. It's up to other boarders if they want to take the risk or not. And even if fully vaccinated it doesn't necessarily mean 100% protection. We have horses coming in and out for training year around, not sure an owner is going to pay 16 days board for quarentine to have 30 days put on their horse. I watch when the diseases are going around and how close they get and debate closing to haul ins, thankfully have not had anything close enough, YET. Virus have to be confirmed with the vet and they turn it. Like mentioned above, having "control" of exposure, if something is going around, we stay home. | |
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       Location: Kansas | New horses coming in should have proof of vaccines and worming, be free of obvious problems Quarantine? Are horses who leave and attend clinis, trail rides, shows and rodeo's required to be quarantined when they come back? They could also be bringing in germs and sickness | |
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| My problem right now is that my barn manager has not taken proper protocols after 2 confirmed cases of strangles on the property. It took me notifying my insurance company. Oh and they knew this horse was from and auction and had no prior history on it and put it in the barn that has my 1 month old foal in it which can only have certain vaccinces at that age. Proper precautions should have been used reguardless. Might I add the barn manager has a barn at her own house with no horses. Perfect place for quarantine for a horse illegally crossing state lines with no health records. I'm so livid right now. | |
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   Location: Heart of Texas | Sounds like you're familiar with the barn protocol, or lack thereof and you're not happy. Since you don't own the barn and you're not the manager you don't have a decision in the matter. Your only option is to deal with it or move your horses. It sucks but everyone's opinions aren't going to matter. Its the struggle of boarding. | |
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| Already have arrangements made to get out of there after everything is lifted of course  and now they aren't even sure if it is strangles bc they are refusing to do a simple culture.... they are going strictly off symptoms and to me its looking more like influenza. fever then no fever..... I'll be happy once I am gone | |
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