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Location: Texas | Texican - 2016-01-20 12:12 PM I agree that Royal and famous will be one to watch as a sire especially given his maternal side. I think there's a fine balance between breeding a stallion early and waiting until they are proven. Since Epic leader was mentioned, he already has a few babies that are doing pretty well in the pen at the futurities because they bred him early, but they also proved he could perform as well, which I think helped him a lot that first year standing to the public. Was he booked full last year and did they raise his fee to 4500, then lower it back to 3500? Just curious.
they lower Epic's stud fee to $3500 to mares that come to him at the "breeding farm". Cooled semen is $4500. |
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Location: Texas | Texican - 2016-01-20 12:12 PM
I agree that Royal and famous will be one to watch as a sire especially given his maternal side.
I think there's a fine balance between breeding a stallion early and waiting until they are proven. Since Epic leader was mentioned, he already has a few babies that are doing pretty well in the pen at the futurities because they bred him early, but they also proved he could perform as well, which I think helped him a lot that first year standing to the public. Was he booked full last year and did they raise his fee to 4500, then lower it back to 3500? Just curious.
Thank you  I worked hard to get him to where he is! I think he will be a standout! Fastest time of the BFA Derby finals against some of the very best! Two videos.
http://youtu.be/rh6nQ9mGcD8
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/royal+and+famous2
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| mollibtexan - 2016-01-27 11:11 PM
Texican - 2016-01-20 12:12 PM
I agree that Royal and famous will be one to watch as a sire especially given his maternal side.
I think there's a fine balance between breeding a stallion early and waiting until they are proven. Since Epic leader was mentioned, he already has a few babies that are doing pretty well in the pen at the futurities because they bred him early, but they also proved he could perform as well, which I think helped him a lot that first year standing to the public. Was he booked full last year and did they raise his fee to 4500, then lower it back to 3500? Just curious.
Thank you I worked hard to get him to where he is! I think he will be a standout! Fastest time of the BFA Derby finals against some of the very best! Two videos.
http://youtu.be/rh6nQ9mGcD8
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/royal+and+famous2
You certainly did an admirable job with him, Molli!
Although...that can be said for any horse you have swung a leg over  |
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| chasincansMN - 2016-01-25 11:30 AM My opinion is that I don't think there will be another as big as Dash Ta Fame because there are 8 million stallions out there now and several that are out of FANTASTIC mares too. How does a person even chose!?!? How many studs are standing by Mulberry Canyon Moon, PC Frenchmans Flirt, Firewater Fiesta, etc. Then look at the number of Frenchmans Guy stallions out of Dash Ta Fame mares. Now several stallions by A Streak of Fling. There are a TON of stallions and I think you will see a smaller number of foals winning by each one than in the past because of this. I am sure glad I don't have a bunch of mares to breed because my head is spinning just looking at what's out there. WOW!
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| mollibtexan - 2016-01-28 12:11 AM Texican - 2016-01-20 12:12 PM I agree that Royal and famous will be one to watch as a sire especially given his maternal side. I think there's a fine balance between breeding a stallion early and waiting until they are proven. Since Epic leader was mentioned, he already has a few babies that are doing pretty well in the pen at the futurities because they bred him early, but they also proved he could perform as well, which I think helped him a lot that first year standing to the public. Was he booked full last year and did they raise his fee to 4500, then lower it back to 3500? Just curious. Thank you I worked hard to get him to where he is! I think he will be a standout! Fastest time of the BFA Derby finals against some of the very best! Two videos. http://youtu.be/rh6nQ9mGcD8 http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/royal+and+famous2
WOW.. You just made me do a double take! Might be a dangerous cross on my FWF daughter. :) |
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Location: OH | Slick By Design is a GREAT GREAT animal----I just wonder whether he has a strong enough bottom side to be a great sire. Time will tell, he sure is fun to watch !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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And one of the Corona Cartel sons, one (or two) will rise to the top in the BR arena.
Each of the above have their own running style and are great outcrosses on the current hot pedigrees. |
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Location: Duvall, WA | Based on the results of the Jud Little sale, I'm guessing a number of the futurity trainers are thinking JL Dash ta Heaven is it. His first futurity colts certainly have done well. Hard to beat a World Champion momma x DTF. |
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Location: Texas | NipntuckLR - 2016-01-28 8:10 PM
Based on the results of the Jud Little sale, I'm guessing a number of the futurity trainers are thinking JL Dash ta Heaven is it. His first futurity colts certainly have done well. Hard to beat a World Champion momma x DTF.
I don't consider him the next up and coming stud.....I think he is already a big deal |
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Location: Texas | mollibtexan - 2016-01-28 8:32 PM
NipntuckLR - 2016-01-28 8:10 PM
Based on the results of the Jud Little sale, I'm guessing a number of the futurity trainers are thinking JL Dash ta Heaven is it. His first futurity colts certainly have done well. Hard to beat a World Champion momma x DTF.
I don't consider him the next up and coming stud.....I think he is already a big deal
I definately have a Heaven problem! |
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Location: Duvall, WA | mollibtexan - 2016-01-28 6:33 PM
mollibtexan - 2016-01-28 8:32 PM
NipntuckLR - 2016-01-28 8:10 PM
Based on the results of the Jud Little sale, I'm guessing a number of the futurity trainers are thinking JL Dash ta Heaven is it. His first futurity colts certainly have done well. Hard to beat a World Champion momma x DTF.
I don't consider him the next up and coming stud.....I think he is already a big deal
I definately have a Heaven problem!
So obviously they are fast and talented, but what are they like to train? Personalities at home? I'd love to have a Heaven problem in my pasture. . . ;-) |
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