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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2013-12-14 10:09 PM
Subject: RE: Moormans Patriot Feed ?


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Three 4 Luck - 2013-12-14 9:53 PM I didn't think Patriot used Anise. It doesn't stink like Purina and Nutrena do. Btw, the waste products from ethanol are actually a high nutrient content and very digestible. I'm sure real food is better, but it's not as bad as it sounds
 this stuff does stink.  now that i think about it, it smells like beer silage if there is such a thing

Edited by SG. 2013-12-14 10:11 PM
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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2013-12-15 12:28 AM
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Three 4 Luck - 2013-12-14 9:53 PM

I didn't think Patriot used Anise. It doesn't stink like Purina and Nutrena do. Btw, the waste products from ethanol are actually a high nutrient content and very digestible. I'm sure real food is better, but it's not as bad as it sounds

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Just to name a few horse problems that have shown up in the past 10 years since GM corn has been grown for ethanol production ... KEEP IN MIND THIS IS A DNA CHANGE TO INCLUDE POISONOUS FACTORS that does not leave your body but builds up over time to affect various problems that will kill you or your horses ...



Think EPM, UNIDENTIFIABLE PROBLEMS, TUMORS, CANCERS, ULCERS, LIVER AND KIDNEY SHUTDOWNS, MORE COLICS/INTESTINAL PROBLEMS, ABORTIONS, NEW BORN FOAL PROBLEMS, KILLING HONEY BEES AND UNINTENDED INSECTS, CONTAMINATING NATURAL CROPS BY WIND/POLLEN ... etc etc

The DNA does not go away during ethanol processing and the FDA and EPA rely on the size of human and horse bodies vs an insects so that we can contain more of the poisons for years before different parts of our bodies start showing cancers, tumors or organ shutdowns. This is always the problem with companies giving grants to university researchers for good reports in order to make billions of dollars while killing everyone.

The above synopsis is the same one they used on heavy metals being in beet pulp and deciding the size of the cow would reduce the levels and said they Ok for human consumption even though the long term build up in the body would be detrimental to your health ... lol ... they have even taken the heavy metal content out of the analysis of beet pulp ...

I can only hope that Europe, Russia, African, Arab and Asian countries keep rejecting the sneaky loads of GM corn and grains sent to these countries continue to show up even with the genes they were supposed to have destroyed years ago.

Don't you remember the emergency shutdown of taco shells by Taco Bell that gave everyone diarrhea and serious stomach and intestinal bleeding which is the way it kills insects that die within hours after munching on a leaf of corn.

Read the following section by section and then see if you are inclined to make the same statement ..... and do a google on GM CORN / MAIZE if you do not like this link ... others are even more robust in their data on the dangers of GM CORN ..........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_maize#Insecticide...

THE WORLD IS IN BIG TROUBLE IF IT CONTINUES TO KILL THE HONEY BEE ...

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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2013-12-15 12:35 AM
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You are right ... it is no longer listed but their smell and palatable comments sez to me they are still using it ....

I did a google to refresh myself on ANISE .... my one little brain cell is getting older ... lol

http://animals.pawnation.com/anise-yucca-supplements-horses-4470.ht...

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I also found this which has to be the thoughts of some nerds that never owned a horse in their lives ....>>> made me think of a Happy Meal at McDonalds ....lol

Choose HEALTHY GLO Meal when:

• A high-quality, higher energy fat supplement is needed (HEALTHY GLO Meal provides 25% fat)


• Horses can benefit from the highest concentration of Omega Flax in FORAGE FIRST products


• A meal form is preferred to blend with other meal supplements


• A slightly lower feeding rate of 0.5-1.5 lb is desired


• Desire to use a HEALTHY GLO product with a granular GROSTRONG Minerals for Horses product


• The horse will benefit from a product free of corn, oats, molasses, and alfalfa

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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2013-12-15 8:03 AM
Subject: RE: Moormans Patriot Feed ?



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 Someone has been reading too much internet propaganda.   
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rockinas
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2013-12-15 8:21 AM
Subject: RE: Moormans Patriot Feed ?



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SG. - 2013-12-14 10:09 PM
Three 4 Luck - 2013-12-14 9:53 PM I didn't think Patriot used Anise. It doesn't stink like Purina and Nutrena do. Btw, the waste products from ethanol are actually a high nutrient content and very digestible. I'm sure real food is better, but it's not as bad as it sounds
 this stuff does stink.  now that i think about it, it smells like beer silage if there is such a thing

LOL SG, beer silage? 
I'm guessing that it is a bad bag. 
I feed Patriot Senior to some of my horses and it doesn't smell like that.
It might have been a bad bag that was packaged up too warm.  I got some MoorGlo a few months ago that smelled bad and I sent it back.  They said it was a bad batch that had not been cooled properly before being bagged, and replaced it with a fresh bag. 
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rockinas
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2013-12-15 8:26 AM
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BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-12-15 12:35 AM You are right ... it is no longer listed but their smell and palatable comments sez to me they are still using it .... I did a google to refresh myself on ANISE .... my one little brain cell is getting older ... lol http://animals.pawnation.com/anise-yucca-supplements-horses-4470.ht... ********************************************************* I also found this which has to be the thoughts of some nerds that never owned a horse in their lives ....>>> made me think of a Happy Meal at McDonalds ....lol Choose HEALTHY GLO Meal when: • A high-quality, higher energy fat supplement is needed (HEALTHY GLO Meal provides 25% fat) • Horses can benefit from the highest concentration of Omega Flax in FORAGE FIRST products • A meal form is preferred to blend with other meal supplements • A slightly lower feeding rate of 0.5-1.5 lb is desired • Desire to use a HEALTHY GLO product with a granular GROSTRONG Minerals for Horses product • The horse will benefit from a product free of corn, oats, molasses, and alfalfa

Healthy Glo is the only thing I could feed Lena May to keep her weight on and not have her having problems with tying up.  But I fed the nuggets, not the meal.   
I've also got a Dash Ta Fame daughter that can't handle grain so she gets just 2# of Healthy Glo a day and free choice grass hay.  She looks fantastic.
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bennie1
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2013-12-15 8:42 AM
Subject: RE: Moormans Patriot Feed ?


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 I'm thinking it's a bad bag. I feed the Patriot 14% pellet to the majority of my horses and it doesn't stink. I think I have smelled the smell you're describing, that sicky sweet silage smell with the undertone of beer...I smelled that in some grain that had gotten damp and sat in my mid tack for a couple summer days.
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just4fun
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2013-12-15 11:29 PM
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I've never smelled stale beer, but I feed the 14P and is does not smell appetizing. My horses like it and look great on it, so that's enough for me.
IMO, if the pellets are clean, not dusty or broken, and there is no mold, I would give it a try... 

eta: you could also call the company. They have always been kind and helpful when I've called for feeding advice.

 

Edited by just4fun 2013-12-15 11:30 PM
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TurnLane
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2013-12-16 10:21 AM
Subject: RE: Moormans Patriot Feed ?



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Three 4 Luck - 2013-12-15 8:03 AM  Someone has been reading too much internet propaganda.  

Thats what I thought.  
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cindyt
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2013-12-16 11:58 AM
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I tried it a few years back and couldn't barely get my horses to eat it... 
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