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astreakinchic
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2013-12-17 10:21 AM
Subject: Leasing


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If you are going to lease a horse try and qualify for a big show or if you are trying to lease a horse for a month to Rodeo to give yours a break what price do you expect to pay? Low or high end…it doesn't matter…in your head what is reasonably for a high-end horse and whats reasonable for a low-end horse?
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2013-12-17 11:51 AM
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One suggestion....make sure you have a good contract signed for the both of you, and copies....just to cover your butt!! 
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ColdWaterCreek
Reg. Aug 2012
Posted 2013-12-17 12:01 PM
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We charge $125-$150 a month for some of our broodmares.

We have never leased any riding horses out but I have seen rates anywhere from a Free riding lease up close to $500/month. It really depends on who your talking to. If the horse is registered through AQHA, there is a Lease Authorization Form that needs to be filled out through AQHA as well, otherwise they won't consider it "legit."


I agree though, make sure there is a detailed contract in place. Be sure you read through EVERYTHING on the contract you are signing.

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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2013-12-17 12:17 PM
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ColdWaterCreek - 2013-12-17 12:01 PM We charge $125-$150 a month for some of our broodmares. We have never leased any riding horses out but I have seen rates anywhere from a Free riding lease up close to $500/month. It really depends on who your talking to. If the horse is registered through AQHA, there is a Lease Authorization Form that needs to be filled out through AQHA as well, otherwise they won't consider it "legit." I agree though, make sure there is a detailed contract in place. Be sure you read through EVERYTHING on the contract you are signing.

WOW, $125-$150 for a broodmare lease?! I was leasing my broodie for free LOL 
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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2013-12-17 2:50 PM
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I have been on both ends of leasing both barrel horses and broodmares. I have never charged anyone to do it or been charged. It's always been a feed lease type deal where the leasee covers all expenses incurred while said horse is in their possession.

I'm happy to say that every lease transaction I have been involved in has gone very well and would not hesitate to enter another. I currently have 2 horses leased out to a friend for her and her daughter. It's going great. 
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2013-12-17 3:04 PM
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TheOldGrayMare - 2013-12-17 2:50 PM I have been on both ends of leasing both barrel horses and broodmares. I have never charged anyone to do it or been charged. It's always been a feed lease type deal where the leasee covers all expenses incurred while said horse is in their possession.



I'm happy to say that every lease transaction I have been involved in has gone very well and would not hesitate to enter another. I currently have 2 horses leased out to a friend for her and her daughter. It's going great. 

 So I can understand doing this if you are being nice.  Is there a reason other than being nice for doing it.  If it is free, you certainly have a lot to lose.
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lhighquality
Reg. Apr 2013
Posted 2013-12-17 3:11 PM
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I currently have a gelding leased out, its a free lease, but she does have the horse insured so that in the event something happens things will be taken care of. After the lease is up she has the option to purchase said horse, extend lease or send him home. Lease agreement is signed & on files with Ins Co. Working so far!!!
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ColdWaterCreek
Reg. Aug 2012
Posted 2013-12-17 3:22 PM
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hoofs_in_motion - 2013-12-17 12:17 PM
ColdWaterCreek - 2013-12-17 12:01 PM We charge $125-$150 a month for some of our broodmares. We have never leased any riding horses out but I have seen rates anywhere from a Free riding lease up close to $500/month. It really depends on who your talking to. If the horse is registered through AQHA, there is a Lease Authorization Form that needs to be filled out through AQHA as well, otherwise they won't consider it "legit." I agree though, make sure there is a detailed contract in place. Be sure you read through EVERYTHING on the contract you are signing.
WOW, $125-$150 for a broodmare lease?! I was leasing my broodie for free LOL 

We charge because we're are losing out breeding the mare ourselves and making the profit off the foal. If there was no profit in it whatsoever, we may as well just give them away.
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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2013-12-17 3:28 PM
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Whiteboy - 2013-12-17 1:04 PM
TheOldGrayMare - 2013-12-17 2:50 PM I have been on both ends of leasing both barrel horses and broodmares. I have never charged anyone to do it or been charged. It's always been a feed lease type deal where the leasee covers all expenses incurred while said horse is in their possession.



I'm happy to say that every lease transaction I have been involved in has gone very well and would not hesitate to enter another. I currently have 2 horses leased out to a friend for her and her daughter. It's going great. 
 So I can understand doing this if you are being nice.  Is there a reason other than being nice for doing it.  If it is free, you certainly have a lot to lose.

In my current situation...I'm not using the horses and I offered the horses to my friend to use. It's saving me money not having the feed them and pay for their upkeep and saving me time. I had too many horses (well still do) and not enough time and I know they are taking just as good of care of them as I would, so it's great for me. These horses are both older and too old to insure, otherwise when I have leased horses out (on both ends) a mortality and major medical policy was taken out by the leasee.

In situations where I was the leasee, the lease was started as a lease to own situation and the same as what I'm doing...someone has a horse they weren't using and offered it to me to run or breed.

We are not talking high caliber 1D horses worth 5+ figures. I'm sure when dealing with that type of stock, you would want to get into charging a monthly fee, insurance policies, contracts, etc.
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2013-12-17 3:32 PM
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TheOldGrayMare - 2013-12-17 3:28 PM
Whiteboy - 2013-12-17 1:04 PM
TheOldGrayMare - 2013-12-17 2:50 PM I have been on both ends of leasing both barrel horses and broodmares. I have never charged anyone to do it or been charged. It's always been a feed lease type deal where the leasee covers all expenses incurred while said horse is in their possession.



I'm happy to say that every lease transaction I have been involved in has gone very well and would not hesitate to enter another. I currently have 2 horses leased out to a friend for her and her daughter. It's going great. 
 So I can understand doing this if you are being nice.  Is there a reason other than being nice for doing it.  If it is free, you certainly have a lot to lose.
In my current situation...I'm not using the horses and I offered the horses to my friend to use. It's saving me money not having the feed them and pay for their upkeep and saving me time. I had too many horses (well still do) and not enough time and I know they are taking just as good of care of them as I would, so it's great for me. These horses are both older and too old to insure, otherwise when I have leased horses out (on both ends) a mortality and major medical policy was taken out by the leasee.



In situations where I was the leasee, the lease was started as a lease to own situation and the same as what I'm doing...someone has a horse they weren't using and offered it to me to run or breed.



We are not talking high caliber 1D horses worth 5+ figures. I'm sure when dealing with that type of stock, you would want to get into charging a monthly fee, insurance policies, contracts, etc.

Thanks for explaining.  That makes sense. 
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2013-12-17 7:04 PM
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ColdWaterCreek - 2013-12-17 3:22 PM

hoofs_in_motion - 2013-12-17 12:17 PM
ColdWaterCreek - 2013-12-17 12:01 PM We charge $125-$150 a month for some of our broodmares. We have never leased any riding horses out but I have seen rates anywhere from a Free riding lease up close to $500/month. It really depends on who your talking to. If the horse is registered through AQHA, there is a Lease Authorization Form that needs to be filled out through AQHA as well, otherwise they won't consider it "legit." I agree though, make sure there is a detailed contract in place. Be sure you read through EVERYTHING on the contract you are signing.
WOW, $125-$150 for a broodmare lease?! I was leasing my broodie for free LOL 

We charge because we're are losing out breeding the mare ourselves and making the profit off the foal. If there was no profit in it whatsoever, we may as well just give them away.

 ok? I don't lose out either on offering the mare for a free breeding lease, she is brought back to my property checked in foal to the stud of my choice that she stands on her property. Not ALL free leases are bad.......just my 2 cents
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Morab76
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Posted 2013-12-17 7:12 PM
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Ensure it is very clear who is responsible for any injuries and what would happen if the horse was injured in a way that ends its career, or life.
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ColdWaterCreek
Reg. Aug 2012
Posted 2013-12-17 10:34 PM
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hoofs_in_motion - 2013-12-17 7:04 PM

ColdWaterCreek - 2013-12-17 3:22 PM

hoofs_in_motion - 2013-12-17 12:17 PM
ColdWaterCreek - 2013-12-17 12:01 PM We charge $125-$150 a month for some of our broodmares. We have never leased any riding horses out but I have seen rates anywhere from a Free riding lease up close to $500/month. It really depends on who your talking to. If the horse is registered through AQHA, there is a Lease Authorization Form that needs to be filled out through AQHA as well, otherwise they won't consider it "legit." I agree though, make sure there is a detailed contract in place. Be sure you read through EVERYTHING on the contract you are signing.
WOW, $125-$150 for a broodmare lease?! I was leasing my broodie for free LOL 

We charge because we're are losing out breeding the mare ourselves and making the profit off the foal. If there was no profit in it whatsoever, we may as well just give them away.

 ok? I don't lose out either on offering the mare for a free breeding lease, she is brought back to my property checked in foal to the stud of my choice that she stands on her property. Not ALL free leases are bad.......just my 2 cents

I never said they were bad. Not every Lessee has a stud on their property that they can re-breed the mare to.
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SwishMiss
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2013-12-17 10:47 PM
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ColdWaterCreek - 2013-12-17 9:34 PM

hoofs_in_motion - 2013-12-17 7:04 PM

ColdWaterCreek - 2013-12-17 3:22 PM

hoofs_in_motion - 2013-12-17 12:17 PM
ColdWaterCreek - 2013-12-17 12:01 PM We charge $125-$150 a month for some of our broodmares. We have never leased any riding horses out but I have seen rates anywhere from a Free riding lease up close to $500/month. It really depends on who your talking to. If the horse is registered through AQHA, there is a Lease Authorization Form that needs to be filled out through AQHA as well, otherwise they won't consider it "legit." I agree though, make sure there is a detailed contract in place. Be sure you read through EVERYTHING on the contract you are signing.
WOW, $125-$150 for a broodmare lease?! I was leasing my broodie for free LOL 

We charge because we're are losing out breeding the mare ourselves and making the profit off the foal. If there was no profit in it whatsoever, we may as well just give them away.

 ok? I don't lose out either on offering the mare for a free breeding lease, she is brought back to my property checked in foal to the stud of my choice that she stands on her property. Not ALL free leases are bad.......just my 2 cents

I never said they were bad. Not every Lessee has a stud on their property that they can re-breed the mare to.

So its not a FREE lease if you get a stud fee out of it. If I'm reading that correctly. And anyone with a broodmare worth anything is not going to free lease it.
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