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brlraceaddict
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-01-06 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Gelling diesel..



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The only additive I've ever used is Power Service (white jug this time of year) as all the diesel mechanics and searching I've done say if you are going to use one, it's the best. I run the stuff year round (grey jug in the summer) as it keeps your injectors clean as well.
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DD2012
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Posted 2014-01-06 10:28 AM
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brlraceaddict - 2014-01-06 10:24 AM

The only additive I've ever used is Power Service (white jug this time of year) as all the diesel mechanics and searching I've done say if you are going to use one, it's the best. I run the stuff year round (grey jug in the summer) as it keeps your injectors clean as well.

And it makes the PS people wealthy


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CYA Ranch
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Posted 2014-01-06 11:32 AM
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magic gunsmoke - 2014-01-06 10:17 AM Ahhh...I totally didn't think about my diesel gelling up....





Not to steal the thread....it is plugged in....and currently -1 , but with the wind chill it is -24 out.



Would anyone recommend I have the husband pick up an additive on his way home from work?


 

If you're running straight with no additive your going to be in trouble if you don't add something  
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magic gunsmoke
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-01-06 11:36 AM
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CYA Ranch - 2014-01-06 12:32 PM
magic gunsmoke - 2014-01-06 10:17 AM Ahhh...I totally didn't think about my diesel gelling up....





Not to steal the thread....it is plugged in....and currently -1 , but with the wind chill it is -24 out.



Would anyone recommend I have the husband pick up an additive on his way home from work?


 
If you're running straight with no additive your going to be in trouble if you don't add something  

Thanks! I will tell the husband to pick something up....

We don't plan on driving it....we only drive it when we haul and it is too cold to ride.

So is an additive still needed once the temperatures warm up? Owning a diesel in temps. like this is all new to me.

Heck-I have never experienced temps. like this in my life. I grew up in Washington near Seattle and we had very moderate weather year round.
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-01-06 11:36 AM
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Unless you are sure you are running #1 diesel, don't agonize!!  Just do it.  I don't care if it's Howe's, or whatever.  Plug your trucks in.  
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magic gunsmoke
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-01-06 11:45 AM
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Well guys thanks for the heads up! Sent my husband a text to pick some additive up.

Luckily his family is in the car parts business (KOI Auto Parts)...and can stop and pick some up easily on his way home from work.
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LoudAppy
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2014-01-06 1:13 PM
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Found out too late to do anything about it, that new diesel trucks come with block heaters, but no cord to plug them in with. Truck started but wouldn't stay running. I'm assuming the fuel has gelled. Will 911 de-gel it so it will run? Then when I re-fuel, put in Howe's? Working on getting the cord installed, but can't get the truck there if it's not running. 
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Just Bring It
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-01-06 1:45 PM
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LoudAppy - 2014-01-06 1:13 PM Found out too late to do anything about it, that new diesel trucks come with block heaters, but no cord to plug them in with. Truck started but wouldn't stay running. I'm assuming the fuel has gelled. Will 911 de-gel it so it will run? Then when I re-fuel, put in Howe's? Working on getting the cord installed, but can't get the truck there if it's not running. 
Ram? My dad has a '13 Ram and was having issues with it staying running in the cold. It would start and run for a minute or so then shut off. He called around and not a single dealer knew how to help him at all! They said he would have to bring it in to have them look at it. He finally talked to a NAPA guy and he said it is probably the rear fuel filter. There is a fuel filter back by the tank. Sure enough that was the problem! Heated it up and drained the water out of the fuel filter and it was fine.

Edited by Just Bring It 2014-01-06 1:46 PM
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rodeoveteran
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2014-01-06 2:29 PM
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HotbearLVR - 2014-01-06 10:01 AM

Lovin Life - 2014-01-06 9:24 AM I've had a mechanic tell me to put a little bit of gas in the tank to keep from gelling also.  

I'm not so sure that's a good idea.  You'd better make sure.  Why not juyst play it safe and use additive?

Used to be that you could throw a little kerosene into the tank. These days, with all of the fancy electronics and EPA crap, I wouldn't risk it.

Also remember that when you are fueling, put your additive in FIRST and it will mix in better when you put the diesel in. Otherwise, in the cold it may just puddle in the top of the tank and do little good in the fuel lines and filters where things most likely plug up.

It used to be that in theses kinds of extreme temps, I would pull a sock over the fuel filter for a little extra protection and sometimes put cardboard in front of the radiator to help keep heat in the engine compartment.

We don't have too many issues with blended fuel, just make sure that we don't come up from the South with a tank full of southern fuel this time of year unless it is heavily treated. Most issues from blended fuel are more likely from water in the fuel.

Hubby has been an OTR driver for over 40 years and I got my CDL back when they called them a Chauffeur's license. You definitely need to be prepare when driving a diesel.

Everybody stay safe....and warm!
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LoudAppy
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Posted 2014-01-06 3:58 PM
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Yes! That's exactly what it's doing! It's supposed to start warming up tomorrow. I'm hoping that's good enough to do the trick.
 
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Just Bring It
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Posted 2014-01-06 4:19 PM
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LoudAppy - 2014-01-06 3:58 PM Yes! That's exactly what it's doing! It's supposed to start warming up tomorrow. I'm hoping that's good enough to do the trick.

 

I believe it is fairly easy to drain the water out. There is a drain valve that once you heat it up should drain the water out just fine. If you have a heater you can stick under there for awhile that should work then just go out and let the water out with that drain valve. 

My dad is pretty frustrated with Ram right now. His truck now also blows a fuse for the clearance lights every time he washes it. One dealership that looked it over told him that he will just have to keep replacing the fuse when it does it. WHAT?!? It is a mechanical issue and the truck is under warranty...figure it out and fix it! Oh and his truck's iPod connection rarely works now and they can't figure that out either. It will play the iPod just fine for awhile and then all of a sudden will say "Connect Device" because it just stops reading the iPod. That on top of him calling probably 6 different dealerships when his truck wouldn't start and not a single one could help him out! It wasn't until he talked to a NAPA parts man did he know what was going on. He didn't even know the newer trucks have another fuel filter in the back. He would love to take it do a different mechanic that actually cares and KNOWS how to figure problems out without needing a darn computer hooked up telling him what to look for but his truck is about 6 months old and under warranty. I know my husband and I never take our vehicles to the dealership anymore. They don't know jack and they are the ones that should be trained in each years/models issues and know how to fix them. Instead they charge you an arm and a leg to fix something that actually doesn't even have anything to do with your problem because that is what the computer codes supposedly read. Been there, done that, multiple times. Never again!
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LoudAppy
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Posted 2014-01-06 5:09 PM
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Just Bring It - 2014-01-06 4:19 PM
LoudAppy - 2014-01-06 3:58 PM Yes! That's exactly what it's doing! It's supposed to start warming up tomorrow. I'm hoping that's good enough to do the trick.

 
I believe it is fairly easy to drain the water out. There is a drain valve that once you heat it up should drain the water out just fine. If you have a heater you can stick under there for awhile that should work then just go out and let the water out with that drain valve. 



My dad is pretty frustrated with Ram right now. His truck now also blows a fuse for the clearance lights every time he washes it. One dealership that looked it over told him that he will just have to keep replacing the fuse when it does it. WHAT?!? It is a mechanical issue and the truck is under warranty...figure it out and fix it! Oh and his truck's iPod connection rarely works now and they can't figure that out either. It will play the iPod just fine for awhile and then all of a sudden will say "Connect Device" because it just stops reading the iPod. That on top of him calling probably 6 different dealerships when his truck wouldn't start and not a single one could help him out! It wasn't until he talked to a NAPA parts man did he know what was going on. He didn't even know the newer trucks have another fuel filter in the back. He would love to take it do a different mechanic that actually cares and KNOWS how to figure problems out without needing a darn computer hooked up telling him what to look for but his truck is about 6 months old and under warranty. I know my husband and I never take our vehicles to the dealership anymore. They don't know jack and they are the ones that should be trained in each years/models issues and know how to fix them. Instead they charge you an arm and a leg to fix something that actually doesn't even have anything to do with your problem because that is what the computer codes supposedly read. Been there, done that, multiple times. Never again!

My truck has a recall on the radio. He might want to check into that with the dealership. They had to order a CD to run on the computer for it, so I haven't gotten it done yet.
 
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Murphy
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-01-06 5:21 PM
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brlraceaddict - 2014-01-06 11:24 AM The only additive I've ever used is Power Service (white jug this time of year) as all the diesel mechanics and searching I've done say if you are going to use one, it's the best. I run the stuff year round (grey jug in the summer) as it keeps your injectors clean as well.

 We use this as well, year round.
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Just Bring It
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Posted 2014-01-06 5:55 PM
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LoudAppy - 2014-01-06 5:09 PM
Just Bring It - 2014-01-06 4:19 PM
LoudAppy - 2014-01-06 3:58 PM Yes! That's exactly what it's doing! It's supposed to start warming up tomorrow. I'm hoping that's good enough to do the trick.

 
I believe it is fairly easy to drain the water out. There is a drain valve that once you heat it up should drain the water out just fine. If you have a heater you can stick under there for awhile that should work then just go out and let the water out with that drain valve. 



My dad is pretty frustrated with Ram right now. His truck now also blows a fuse for the clearance lights every time he washes it. One dealership that looked it over told him that he will just have to keep replacing the fuse when it does it. WHAT?!? It is a mechanical issue and the truck is under warranty...figure it out and fix it! Oh and his truck's iPod connection rarely works now and they can't figure that out either. It will play the iPod just fine for awhile and then all of a sudden will say "Connect Device" because it just stops reading the iPod. That on top of him calling probably 6 different dealerships when his truck wouldn't start and not a single one could help him out! It wasn't until he talked to a NAPA parts man did he know what was going on. He didn't even know the newer trucks have another fuel filter in the back. He would love to take it do a different mechanic that actually cares and KNOWS how to figure problems out without needing a darn computer hooked up telling him what to look for but his truck is about 6 months old and under warranty. I know my husband and I never take our vehicles to the dealership anymore. They don't know jack and they are the ones that should be trained in each years/models issues and know how to fix them. Instead they charge you an arm and a leg to fix something that actually doesn't even have anything to do with your problem because that is what the computer codes supposedly read. Been there, done that, multiple times. Never again!
My truck has a recall on the radio. He might want to check into that with the dealership. They had to order a CD to run on the computer for it, so I haven't gotten it done yet.

 

I will have him check into that. His is a Longhorn Laramie if that makes a difference or not? I'm not sure if it is the radio or the iPod connection or somewhere in between...lol.  He loves that thing but its the little things like that that are just frustrating. His old truck was a '95 Dodge with over 500k on it and he was the one and only owner. This was his first new vehicle purchase since 1995! He figured he might as well go big since he will probably have it for another 20 years (if the new ones can even last that long).
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barrelhaybroker
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2014-01-06 6:11 PM
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Apparently the newer trucks don't come with plugins?
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LoudAppy
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Posted 2014-01-06 6:22 PM
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barrelhaybroker - 2014-01-06 6:11 PM Apparently the newer trucks don't come with plugins?

No they do not. Pretty stupid, right?
 
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fatchance
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-01-06 6:29 PM
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For those that can't plug them in due to no plug, never forget the good ole fashion why.  Put a trouble light/light bulb under your hood.  Usually will help.
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royal
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Posted 2014-01-06 8:18 PM
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Number 1 and plug it in. That is all we have done when we had -50 below weather for the last few days. Our pickups and trucks have  started right up. I know some people who mix 1 and 2. Or just run straight 1.
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