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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2014-01-10 9:00 AM
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Boxingqueenb - 2014-01-09 9:54 PM As a multiracial female I find some of these posts to be borderline racist. I am all for people having their own opinion and voicing it for that matter. However, I can tell some of the previous statements are lacking research, therefore, are uneducated responses. According to the Department of Commerce, the welfare statistics are as followed. Total number of Americans on welfare is 12,800,000. The total number of Americans on food stamps is 46,700,000. Total number of Americans who receive unemployment insurance 5,600,000. Now with that said welfare demographics are as followed.... Percent of recipients who are white 38.8%; percent who are black 39.8%; percent who are Hispanic 15.7%; percent who are Asian 2.4%; percent who are other 3.3%. Whites are right up there with black people. Furthermore as a mother of two black youth, I find it ridiculous to assume that black youth are the only demographic group who are suffering in the job industry. In July the youth employment-population ratio was 51.7% for young men, 49.6% for young women, 54.3% for whites, 38.6% for blacks, 39.2% for asians, 47.4% for hispanics. There was very little change from the ratios the previous year. The total number for youth unemployment in July 2013 was 3.8 million, compared to 4.0 million the previous year. Like I said before, I am all for people expressing their opinions, but I wish there was more research done before speaking and not being correct.... I am new to this site and I enjoy it very much. I don't want trouble, I'm just pointing out some facts. Jennifer

 Nobody said "black youth are the only demographic group who are suffering in the job industry"  I only pointed out one particular group.  Other groups will also be negativly affected.  Also you can argue just about any statistic.  Do your statistics account for mixed race?  Regardless, people looking to be offended will be offended.
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Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-01-10 9:12 AM
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This thread showcases an excellent example of how liberals use racism by twisting facts and turning things around.  The reason people post facts about food stamp use and unemployment figures is precisely out of a concern over the decline in minority communities, particularly Black minorities but liberals cry out "racism!" whenever these facts are openly pointed out.  That outcry, in and of itself, is racist.  
As a percentage, Blacks are on food stamps almost twice that of whites.  That's just a fact.  I don't think numbers lie.
As a percentage, Blacks have twice the unemployment rate as whites.
The high school dropout rate for Blacks is roughly 50%
The unemployment rate for young Blacks age 16-19 is also roughly 50%.  People point this out because they feel this is a travesty.  How can the pointing out of these facts be considered racist?  That anyone would actually take offense at these facts and try to turn things around by crying out "racism!" is, in fact, the REAL racism.  

So, why do we have this discrepancy?  The answer might very well be explained by another statistic: over 70% of Black babies are born out of wedlock.  The numbers for whites is abysmal as well, but the difference is roughly 33% versus 70+%.  I don't see how pointing out these incredible numbers amounts to racism.  Back in 1960 that overall out-of-wedlock birth rate was around 6%.  

The REAL racism and the REAL tragedy is in ignoring those numbers and castigating those of us who are honest enough to point them out.
Fortunately, there are some bright African Americans who are speaking out.  This is what progressivism has done for the African American community, and I would think once people sit up and open their eyes there would be a collective outrage.  

 
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Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-01-10 9:19 AM
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NorthStar - 2014-01-09 11:25 PM This group is not interested in facts. They are just interested in fanning the flames of racial hatred and then blaming blacks for it. Pretty pathetic, really. It is quite disheartening because I thought we were beyond stereotyping and race-baiting. Guess not.

The "racial hatred" is coming from the left, not the right.  The truth is that liberals NEED racial hatred in order to survive.  They also need dependency and enslavment by the federal government to survive - by BOTH whites and blacks.  Dependency and Racism - two of the most vital linch pin concepts holding progressivism together.  Without it, Progressivism would wither away and rot and be relegated to the ash heap of history.
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Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2014-01-10 9:40 AM
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How can you be a racist just because you cite racial statistics? The feds are the ones who compile this data, does that mean that all aspects of govt are racist? Maybe it should be illegal for any and all racial stats to be collected and kept. That would kind of change things for such things as scholarships wouldn't it? At our school there is an organization called JOM. There are all kinds of free things that you get at school if you are a tribal member. Doesn't that seem racist?
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-01-10 10:04 AM
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river runner - 2014-01-10 9:40 AM How can you be a racist just because you cite racial statistics? The feds are the ones who compile this data, does that mean that all aspects of govt are racist? Maybe it should be illegal for any and all racial stats to be collected and kept. That would kind of change things for such things as scholarships wouldn't it? At our school there is an organization called JOM. There are all kinds of free things that you get at school if you are a tribal member. Doesn't that seem racist?

 That's what I was thinking.  When the government stops differentiating, when you no longer check boxes to indicate race or ethnicity, that's when we will have moved past all this.
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-01-10 10:05 AM
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Boxingqueenb - 2014-01-09 9:54 PM As a multiracial female I find some of these posts to be borderline racist. I am all for people having their own opinion and voicing it for that matter. However, I can tell some of the previous statements are lacking research, therefore, are uneducated responses. According to the Department of Commerce, the welfare statistics are as followed. Total number of Americans on welfare is 12,800,000. The total number of Americans on food stamps is 46,700,000. Total number of Americans who receive unemployment insurance 5,600,000. Now with that said welfare demographics are as followed.... Percent of recipients who are white 38.8%; percent who are black 39.8%; percent who are Hispanic 15.7%; percent who are Asian 2.4%; percent who are other 3.3%. Whites are right up there with black people. Furthermore as a mother of two black youth, I find it ridiculous to assume that black youth are the only demographic group who are suffering in the job industry. In July the youth employment-population ratio was 51.7% for young men, 49.6% for young women, 54.3% for whites, 38.6% for blacks, 39.2% for asians, 47.4% for hispanics. There was very little change from the ratios the previous year. The total number for youth unemployment in July 2013 was 3.8 million, compared to 4.0 million the previous year. Like I said before, I am all for people expressing their opinions, but I wish there was more research done before speaking and not being correct.... I am new to this site and I enjoy it very much. I don't want trouble, I'm just pointing out some facts. Jennifer

For a "newcomer", I would frankly be embarrassed by this post.  You glaring errors are not even worth pointing out because an imbecile can clearly see it for themselves.  YOU are the "uneducated" one, not us. 
I love your post nonetheless because it serves as a prime example of how liberals twist things, but even they don't make these kinds of glaring mistakes.  Nobody with half a brain can miss your twisted logic....including those of us you deem "uneducated".  If you don't see this then you need to go back to school.
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Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-01-10 10:07 AM
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Boxingqueenb - 2014-01-10 10:19 PM I know what the previous posts state, and I am fully aware of the percentage of demographics. The system is setup and very corrupt. There are people who do use and abuse the system black, white, Latino, asian, ect. I'm just bothered by the way blacks are discussed on this board. Not everyone feels entitled and uses the system as an excuse. Furthermore, a political advertisement tactic might not be the best form of information.

You know what?  I think you need to get the chip off your shoulder and look at what is actually happening in this country.  I AM SO SICK OF THE RACE CARD and liberals throwing up bias everytime something is mentioned about a black person or the black community.  To me, you are being racist because you choose not to look at facts, but color.
I can't stand Obama or his policies but it has nothing to do with the color of his skin.  I love Dr. Ben Carson, who is blacker than Obama I guess because both his mother and father were black.  The fact is, politicians have manipulated the black community for generations to get the vote.  They are doing the same thing now with the Hispanic community.  There is a growing number of young black people who see what this has done to their community and who are trying to reverse it.   
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-01-10 10:21 AM
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 Look up what the Roman Republic and later, the Emperors did to pacify the plebs.  The free food, subsidized housing, free entertainment.  Our government is trotting merrily down the same path.  There are a few who truly think they are helping, but mostly it's about control and power.
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smiley
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2014-01-10 4:38 PM
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Boxingqueenb - 2014-01-09 8:54 PM As a multiracial female I find some of these posts to be borderline racist. I am all for people having their own opinion and voicing it for that matter. However, I can tell some of the previous statements are lacking research, therefore, are uneducated responses. According to the Department of Commerce, the welfare statistics are as followed. Total number of Americans on welfare is 12,800,000. The total number of Americans on food stamps is 46,700,000. Total number of Americans who receive unemployment insurance 5,600,000. Now with that said welfare demographics are as followed.... Percent of recipients who are white 38.8%; percent who are black 39.8%; percent who are Hispanic 15.7%; percent who are Asian 2.4%; percent who are other 3.3%. Whites are right up there with black people. Furthermore as a mother of two black youth, I find it ridiculous to assume that black youth are the only demographic group who are suffering in the job industry. In July the youth employment-population ratio was 51.7% for young men, 49.6% for young women, 54.3% for whites, 38.6% for blacks, 39.2% for asians, 47.4% for hispanics. There was very little change from the ratios the previous year. The total number for youth unemployment in July 2013 was 3.8 million, compared to 4.0 million the previous year. Like I said before, I am all for people expressing their opinions, but I wish there was more research done before speaking and not being correct.... I am new to this site and I enjoy it very much. I don't want trouble, I'm just pointing out some facts. Jennifer



Being new to the site I have to say that it's not meant racially, it's meant as a wake up call to those that continue to support democratic policies that undermine the very people democrats swear they are helping - minorities.

We discuss things very plainly and in plain language, e.g. black vs. African American. Or white vs. Caucasian. We often talk politics and the board is heavily conservative. I know that many, if not all, the conservatives that you see on this thread welcome ALL conservatives to their side - ALL. To me barrel racers and conservatives in general care about what you bring to the table, not about your color. Barrel racing and rodeo events are timed events and the thought process is that if you can do it you should. I don't think any of this borders on racism and that is actually most of our complaints about democrats is that EVERYTHING tends to "border on racism".

 Welcome to the site, I hope you stay, there are literally ALL kinds of people here and even the liberals get their digs in now and then <<<<< joke.
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Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-01-11 10:39 AM
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HotbearLVR - 2014-01-09 10:12 AM This thread showcases an excellent example of how liberals use racism by twisting facts and turning things around.  The reason people post facts about food stamp use and unemployment figures is precisely out of a concern over the decline in minority communities, particularly Black minorities but liberals cry out "racism!" whenever these facts are openly pointed out.  That outcry, in and of itself, is racist.  

As a percentage, Blacks are on food stamps almost twice that of whites.  That's just a fact.  I don't think numbers lie.

As a percentage, Blacks have twice the unemployment rate as whites.

The high school dropout rate for Blacks is roughly 50%

The unemployment rate for young Blacks age 16-19 is also roughly 50%.  People point this out because they feel this is a travesty.  How can the pointing out of these facts be considered racist?  That anyone would actually take offense at these facts and try to turn things around by crying out "racism!" is, in fact, the REAL racism.  



So, why do we have this discrepancy?  The answer might very well be explained by another statistic: over 70% of Black babies are born out of wedlock.  The numbers for whites is abysmal as well, but the difference is roughly 33% versus 70+%.  I don't see how pointing out these incredible numbers amounts to racism.  Back in 1960 that overall out-of-wedlock birth rate was around 6%.  



The REAL racism and the REAL tragedy is in ignoring those numbers and castigating those of us who are honest enough to point them out.

Fortunately, there are some bright African Americans who are speaking out.  This is what progressivism has done for the African American community, and I would think once people sit up and open their eyes there would be a collective outrage.  


 

And that is what this administration has done..............
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Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2014-01-11 11:41 AM
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CJE - 2014-01-11 10:39 AM

HotbearLVR - 2014-01-09 10:12 AM This thread showcases an excellent example of how liberals use racism by twisting facts and turning things around.  The reason people post facts about food stamp use and unemployment figures is precisely out of a concern over the decline in minority communities, particularly Black minorities but liberals cry out "racism!" whenever these facts are openly pointed out.  That outcry, in and of itself, is racist.  

As a percentage, Blacks are on food stamps almost twice that of whites.  That's just a fact.  I don't think numbers lie.

As a percentage, Blacks have twice the unemployment rate as whites.

The high school dropout rate for Blacks is roughly 50%

The unemployment rate for young Blacks age 16-19 is also roughly 50%.  People point this out because they feel this is a travesty.  How can the pointing out of these facts be considered racist?  That anyone would actually take offense at these facts and try to turn things around by crying out "racism!" is, in fact, the REAL racism.  



So, why do we have this discrepancy?  The answer might very well be explained by another statistic: over 70% of Black babies are born out of wedlock.  The numbers for whites is abysmal as well, but the difference is roughly 33% versus 70+%.  I don't see how pointing out these incredible numbers amounts to racism.  Back in 1960 that overall out-of-wedlock birth rate was around 6%.  



The REAL racism and the REAL tragedy is in ignoring those numbers and castigating those of us who are honest enough to point them out.

Fortunately, there are some bright African Americans who are speaking out.  This is what progressivism has done for the African American community, and I would think once people sit up and open their eyes there would be a collective outrage.  


 

And that is what this administration has done..............

I am happy and encouraged to see (and know young - and old ) black people who have "open eyes" and are working to move forward instead of being held down and controlled. And have stopped using it as an excuse to prevent success in their own lives.
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Posted 2014-01-11 4:28 PM
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CJE - 2014-01-11 9:39 AM
HotbearLVR - 2014-01-09 10:12 AM This thread showcases an excellent example of how liberals use racism by twisting facts and turning things around.  The reason people post facts about food stamp use and unemployment figures is precisely out of a concern over the decline in minority communities, particularly Black minorities but liberals cry out "racism!" whenever these facts are openly pointed out.  That outcry, in and of itself, is racist.  

As a percentage, Blacks are on food stamps almost twice that of whites.  That's just a fact.  I don't think numbers lie.

As a percentage, Blacks have twice the unemployment rate as whites.

The high school dropout rate for Blacks is roughly 50%

The unemployment rate for young Blacks age 16-19 is also roughly 50%.  People point this out because they feel this is a travesty.  How can the pointing out of these facts be considered racist?  That anyone would actually take offense at these facts and try to turn things around by crying out "racism!" is, in fact, the REAL racism.  



So, why do we have this discrepancy?  The answer might very well be explained by another statistic: over 70% of Black babies are born out of wedlock.  The numbers for whites is abysmal as well, but the difference is roughly 33% versus 70+%.  I don't see how pointing out these incredible numbers amounts to racism.  Back in 1960 that overall out-of-wedlock birth rate was around 6%.  



The REAL racism and the REAL tragedy is in ignoring those numbers and castigating those of us who are honest enough to point them out.

Fortunately, there are some bright African Americans who are speaking out.  This is what progressivism has done for the African American community, and I would think once people sit up and open their eyes there would be a collective outrage.  


 
And that is what this administration has done..............



Yes, whether this administration meant to or not, they have for sure turned more minorities into conservatives. I for one am glad that this continued unemployment and health care boondoggle is still going on under his watch, it shows, to those that are paying attention that liberal policies by and large - not all - do not work the way the rose colored glasses folks want you to believe they work. And that is true - this administrataion and this president - has indeed shown and "done" that. 
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