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Location: Great NW | This whole thing sounds fishy to me - like the only vet she trusts to do the PPE is... and then that vet says xrays not needed on front. hmmmm 
Sorry you are going thru this I would push her harder to see if she will give in. It is sad that she just might get away with this because it will be WAY easier for you to just to walk away for the price you paid and chalk it up to "a lesson learned" As a breeder she should have just put the filly down and wrote her off. | |
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Location: Viola, IL | My vet just had a clinic last weekend where he discussed lamenesses and prepurchase exams. At which point he discussed that FEET are the most important part to him in a prepurchase and he always says to x-ray the feet. I think since the vet told you he wasn't going to xray the feet, that he probably was in with the breeder. He probably makes a lot of money off her since she's a breeder, and didn't want to rock the boat with her.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure you have any recourse. Poor filly! | |
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Location: Canada | The horse was lame when you viewed it, and sadly it sounds like the seller was either dishonest or not knowledgeable about horses. Unfortunately you viewed the horse and bought it knowing it was lame at the time of sale. I know you thought it was a temporary issue and believed the seller was honest but the seller may or may not have known about the issue. If they stood behind their breeding program and their sales they would have likely taken her back especially because there are defects in the joint which are in no way caused by you owning her and your offer to accept half of the money back is a very reasonable deal.
Sadly, it's a loss for you and a hard lesson learned. Personally, and flame away, I'd put her down as it sounds like she's got a long life of suffering ahead of her if she's only two and has that many issues already, and she's certainly not something worth breeding. I wouldn't try to resell her or allow the breeder to resell her on your behalf as you know that if you fully disclosed what is going on with the mare no one will purchase her so if she sells it's likely due to providing false information that now you are a part of it.
Sorry this happened to you. | |
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Location: Texas | Given that the horse didn't show lameness until you got her home, vet didn't do a full PPE (actually talked you out of doing the front feet), breeder only recommending that vet and now not working with you.... I think the breeder knew the horse was lame and possibly knew the extent of the lameness. Proving all of that would be difficult.
I'm not sure what the legal recourse you may have in California. Even to pursue it may cost you more than what you paid for the horse. Sorry this happened to you. Even worse, a breeder should stand behind what they produce. The horse industry is small and breeders can live or die by their reputation.
Sorry this happened to you. | |
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Location: North MS | I would believe you viewed a medicated horse for it to be sound when you viewed it. JMO. | |
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| halter_ego - 2014-01-21 3:49 PM Long story, I will try to make it short.
Bought a coming 2 year old, one month ago. Specifically asked seller if horse had any type of previous injury or illness, was told only brusied soles when trimmed several months prior. Watched horse move in round pen, sound, walking on concrete sound, could not lunge on hard ground because of snow and ice. Discussed pre-purchase, seller stated there was only one vet she could recommend in that area, when I asked about others, she said she had bad experiences with them. Called the suggested vet, talked to her about pre-purchase, she stated she would like to do hock, stifle, and "shoulder" films for OCD. Shoulder? Really? Said she saw no point in doing front feet on one not yet 2. Decided against pre-purchase because of lowish purchase price and other emergency on my part, and really trusting these folks. Bought the filly, brought her home, next day she is off. Her feet were horrible, so ended up trimming her, still off. Contacted buyer, asked if she had any ideas, not really. Wrapped feet, put front shoes on, etc, etc. No changes. Took her to the vet yesterday, he said she has the coffin bones of a 16 year old, severe remodeling, spurs,the beginning of side bone, and a navicular bone that is undeveloped with a huge divot in it. Spoke to breeder/seller, asked to her to work with me as these are pre-existing conditions. Told her I would bring the horse back, asked her to reimburse half of the purchase price, more than fair in my opinion. She told me not to bring her back, all she could help me do is market this crippled, unbroke 2 year old. I then told her, I will hold on to her as she attempts to resell for 2 weeks but then I would bring her back, as I am not going to feed this horse any longer. She said, "Do not bring her back, put her down". Do I have any ground to stand on here? Maybe not legally, but morally?
This is not a good situation to be in for anyone, I hope it works out for the best for you.
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Location: Texas | I agree it was fishy that she has had bad experiences at every clinic nearby except for this one vet. I can understand stifle and hocks but I don't know why they would want to do a shoulder over the front feet. And honestly, this goes for EVERYONE- YOU AS THE BUYER tell the VET what films YOU want. if YOU wanted those front feet done, they should have DONE IT. When a vet suggests what to do with a PPE they take into account the price of the horse, the amount the buyer wants to spend, and the potential job of the horse. If the OP said she was wanting to get a trail riding prospect and she wasn't paying a lot, I can see not taking films or anything because the vet has a moral obligation not to just flat out blow your money. Anyway, doesn't really matter in this case because she didn't do a PPE.. but in the future, if you want something radiographed, get it done.
We bought one and did a PPE, x-rayed stifles and hocks and she tested positive over the toe of one hoof. it was really minor and didn't bother me so I declined radiographing it. Vet wanted to, but since I asked not to, he didn't do it. It has never been a problem… but if it did turn out to be a problem, since I declined to film it I'd be SOL.
I still think the owner should be more willing to work with you. It's bad business to do what she did. | |
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