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Location: NOT at Wal Mart | crazyowgirl63 - 2014-01-22 10:27 AM I am a union utility worker and yes griz...you are right about sharing beds....and yes many here avoid work which infuriates some of us that love our jobs but i also got a notice yesterday that my dues were going up from $13/week to 55! They dont do anything for me and i am fortunate that I have never needed them to but after 29 years i am rather sick of the entire thing!
55.00 per week, I'll trade ya. |
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Industrial Srength Barrel Racer
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| HotbearLVR - 2014-01-22 12:45 PM I wonder how union members feel about making contributions to the DNC using their dues....especially those members who aren't Democrats. I would think that is bothersome.
I am DEFINATELY NOT a democrat and yes, it IS bothersome! |
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Location: NOT at Wal Mart | HotbearLVR - 2014-01-22 10:45 AM I wonder how union members feel about making contributions to the DNC using their dues....especially those members who aren't Democrats. I would think that is bothersome.
It's not just the DNC it's everywhere, where does your money go? I asked my husband, he doesn't have a clue. Kinda like Uncle Sam. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | justcruzin - 2014-01-22 1:12 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-01-22 10:45 AM I wonder how union members feel about making contributions to the DNC using their dues....especially those members who aren't Democrats. I would think that is bothersome.
It's not just the DNC it's everywhere, where does your money go? I asked my husband, he doesn't have a clue. Kinda like Uncle Sam.
I know, but unions rarely, if ever contribute to the GOP. That's what torques people. When was the last time unions showed up in force to campaign against a democrat, the way they did when they tried to unseat Scott Walker? |
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| My husband was a union sheet metal worker for over 20 years. He stayed in it until the wheels fell off of the wagon of the company he worked for. At the beginning it was all good but over time the actual support from the union declined. The company he worked for regularly had bounced payroll checks. I would be infuriated, especially when the boss would be off to Mexico on vacation. The union rep said he could shut down the company but did the workers really want that? Then they went to pulling the dues out of their checks and not sending them to the union hall. It was beyond frustrating. At the time my husband backed the union to the hilt but now looking back he feels like a lot of it was a waste of money because they really weren't there to represent the workers, they were there to represent the companies. And Komet hit the nail on the head when he said the unions got into bed with the mob. My husband lost a lot of retirement over an "investment loss" because of that. And the "Right to Work" states do not help either - it means there will always be people willing to work for a lesser wage, they have that right to work - for less money, crappy conditions, and often for 'shady' outfits. His current job pays 20% less but it is a good job (state), stable, and he is much happier. His big complaint now is not enough work to do, he is not used to having to ask for things to do. |
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Location: NOT at Wal Mart | HotbearLVR - 2014-01-22 11:51 AM justcruzin - 2014-01-22 1:12 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-01-22 10:45 AM I wonder how union members feel about making contributions to the DNC using their dues....especially those members who aren't Democrats. I would think that is bothersome. It's not just the DNC it's everywhere, where does your money go? I asked my husband, he doesn't have a clue. Kinda like Uncle Sam. I know, but unions rarely, if ever contribute to the GOP. That's what torques people. When was the last time unions showed up in force to campaign against a democrat, the way they did when they tried to unseat Scott Walker?
They had a lot to loose, and they lost it. They were desperate. |
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Location: ND--it snows, it floods, it snows, it floods | In my husbands previous roll as a route driver for his company he was in the Union but really didn't get anything out of it. The benefits aren't there anymore it seems like. He could still get most of the benefits of the union like the health insurance/retirement without paying the dues if he so choose. He stayed in because it was more of a hassle to get out then anything. He's now management and has to deal with the union. He says the younger guys won't/don't see the union benefits anymore like the older workers do and he understands it. Not to mention that their union head is being investigated for fraud and misuse of funds so who knows anymore. |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | komet. - 2014-01-20 10:22 PM I'll tell you what I think Doc. The unions stopped taking care of the people and were asking for too much at the same time. My brother worked at a plant back home that was union and they kept demanding more and more until the plant closed up and moved to a Right To Work state.. They were kind to the country.. Most of the plants moved everything out of the country. This was late 80s... Also a friend of mine worked for the labors union in Missouri for 12 years and got hurt on the job and all of a sudden there was no medical. This was back in the early 90s. There was a place for the unions way back when the coal miners needed help and formed their union. But they got too big for their britches. Eventually they drove jobs to China and Japan and other places outside the country. So agree...........and so did the Union workers........
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Location: NOT at Wal Mart | CJE - 2014-01-22 2:41 PM komet. - 2014-01-20 10:22 PM I'll tell you what I think Doc. The unions stopped taking care of the people and were asking for too much at the same time. My brother worked at a plant back home that was union and they kept demanding more and more until the plant closed up and moved to a Right To Work state.. They were kind to the country.. Most of the plants moved everything out of the country. This was late 80s... Also a friend of mine worked for the labors union in Missouri for 12 years and got hurt on the job and all of a sudden there was no medical. This was back in the early 90s. There was a place for the unions way back when the coal miners needed help and formed their union. But they got too big for their britches. Eventually they drove jobs to China and Japan and other places outside the country. So agree...........and so did the Union workers........
The consumer helped drive those jobs out of the US, we want cheap, for example: look at all the Chinese (Vietnamese, Indonesia ect) crap sold at WalMart, look at how fast WM has grown and the amount of people who shop there. |
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