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| Honestly, it took me quite some time before I could get that rein back at the turn, but you have to do it. Two handing the turn is eventually gonna hurt, because that is using a lot of core muscles to sit on the horse, and eventually, you will get a horse that you cannot do that on. I know when my mare really gets into it, you better grab that horn or your gonna knock all the poles over being out of position.
Practice slowly going down, dropping the rein, and picking it back up. Make sure you have short reins as that will be easier to get a hold of. Long reins are nearly impossible that I've seen. Also, you better have that rein back at or before your horse is pointed at the poles, or you are too late and will probably knock the second pole over. | |
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
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| I have to grab the horn going into the end pole coming in. Going Mach 1 and sitting for the turn would be disastrous if I didn't. I'd be launched over the rail!
I two hand for most of the pole run, but can do 1 hand to grab poles if I need to in case he gets a little close. | |
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Location: California | HotbearLVR - 2014-03-02 10:46 AM Kas_BarrelHorses - 2014-03-02 12:15 PM I always use two hands cause every time i've ever dropped to one hand and i would hit a pole trying to switch to two handed... I just think two handed all the way is much better!! :) It's rare to see a real fast (19-20 second) pole run where the rider doesn't go to the horn on the ends. You can do it if you are running 23-24 seconds, but it's a lot harder when you are making those real fast runs where your horse can really drop down, rate, and snap around the end.....you might be able to do it, but you get thrown off balance. On my pictures, between the 2nd and 3rd pictures, we've only travelled a couple feet and he's dropped his ass down and has come around the end by 90 degrees. I need that horn to stay centered and balanced. If you google "19 second pole runs", at least 9 out of 10 go to the horn. I'd suggest that you perfect that technique, rather than try to 2-hand all the way around and through the weave....IF you want to get those 19-20 second runs down. I think I've probably watched every you tube video of every 19 second run at least twice, because I learn so much by watching them over and over and over. I'm determined to eventually make some 19 second runs, so You Tube is my "study guide". One of our BB's from Cali (name escapes me) is an outstanding pole bender and she has a series of 19 second runs on You Tube......fun watching.
Here is a video of an exceptional rider making a 19.1 second run. He hits almost every pole and pushes several back up, but what impresses me is his incredible balance and style. He IS one of those exceptional riders who doesn't use the horn, but that guy is exceptional.....I wouldn't advise trying it on a 19 second horse. Obviously he knows and trusts that rocket......worth watching:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWIViFDQ2kg
That's me  . Here is a video of my old pole horse. He would drop and turn those end poles and there is no way I would be able to stay 2 handed!
http://youtu.be/KYj3vZZOwv4 | |
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Location: Deep South | I've been blessed to ride a couple of pole horses that could consistently run in the 20.0-20.5 range (when I stayed out of their way and didn't knock!) and when they are running that hard and roll back for those end turns there's no way I could stay on if I was riding two-handed. Enough repetition and muscle memory though and you learn to quickly go back to two hands for the weave. Mine weren't automatic enough to run one-handed the whole way, and most pole horses aren't. | |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | I always ran mine one handed around the end turns and two handed through the weave. | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Calibarrelrcr - 2014-03-04 3:23 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-02 10:46 AM Kas_BarrelHorses - 2014-03-02 12:15 PM I always use two hands cause every time i've ever dropped to one hand and i would hit a pole trying to switch to two handed... I just think two handed all the way is much better!! :) It's rare to see a real fast (19-20 second) pole run where the rider doesn't go to the horn on the ends. You can do it if you are running 23-24 seconds, but it's a lot harder when you are making those real fast runs where your horse can really drop down, rate, and snap around the end.....you might be able to do it, but you get thrown off balance. On my pictures, between the 2nd and 3rd pictures, we've only travelled a couple feet and he's dropped his ass down and has come around the end by 90 degrees. I need that horn to stay centered and balanced. If you google "19 second pole runs", at least 9 out of 10 go to the horn. I'd suggest that you perfect that technique, rather than try to 2-hand all the way around and through the weave....IF you want to get those 19-20 second runs down. I think I've probably watched every you tube video of every 19 second run at least twice, because I learn so much by watching them over and over and over. I'm determined to eventually make some 19 second runs, so You Tube is my "study guide". One of our BB's from Cali (name escapes me) is an outstanding pole bender and she has a series of 19 second runs on You Tube......fun watching.
Here is a video of an exceptional rider making a 19.1 second run. He hits almost every pole and pushes several back up, but what impresses me is his incredible balance and style. He IS one of those exceptional riders who doesn't use the horn, but that guy is exceptional.....I wouldn't advise trying it on a 19 second horse. Obviously he knows and trusts that rocket......worth watching:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWIViFDQ2kg
. Here is a video of my old pole horse. He would drop and turn those end poles and there is no way I would be able to stay 2 handed!
http://youtu.be/KYj3vZZOwv4
Thanks for posting! That's what you call consistency! I watch these over and over, and I think it helps a lot. I'm determined to join your "19 second club" someday soon. | |
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 Ima Cool Kid
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Location: TN | Some times it depends on the horse. Here's a picture of my old mare who turned no matter what I did.
she is retired now. I grab the horn to alow the horse to make the turn. it takes longer to develop a finnished horse. i feel in the long run "less is best". I like to be 2 handed through out the weave but know my seat DRIVES the weave and rate at the ends. | |
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Location: Ky | HotbearLVR - 2014-03-04 4:25 PM Calibarrelrcr - 2014-03-04 3:23 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-02 10:46 AM Kas_BarrelHorses - 2014-03-02 12:15 PM I always use two hands cause every time i've ever dropped to one hand and i would hit a pole trying to switch to two handed... I just think two handed all the way is much better!! :) It's rare to see a real fast (19-20 second) pole run where the rider doesn't go to the horn on the ends. You can do it if you are running 23-24 seconds, but it's a lot harder when you are making those real fast runs where your horse can really drop down, rate, and snap around the end.....you might be able to do it, but you get thrown off balance. On my pictures, between the 2nd and 3rd pictures, we've only travelled a couple feet and he's dropped his ass down and has come around the end by 90 degrees. I need that horn to stay centered and balanced. If you google "19 second pole runs", at least 9 out of 10 go to the horn. I'd suggest that you perfect that technique, rather than try to 2-hand all the way around and through the weave....IF you want to get those 19-20 second runs down. I think I've probably watched every you tube video of every 19 second run at least twice, because I learn so much by watching them over and over and over. I'm determined to eventually make some 19 second runs, so You Tube is my "study guide". One of our BB's from Cali (name escapes me) is an outstanding pole bender and she has a series of 19 second runs on You Tube......fun watching.
Here is a video of an exceptional rider making a 19.1 second run. He hits almost every pole and pushes several back up, but what impresses me is his incredible balance and style. He IS one of those exceptional riders who doesn't use the horn, but that guy is exceptional.....I wouldn't advise trying it on a 19 second horse. Obviously he knows and trusts that rocket......worth watching:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWIViFDQ2kg . Here is a video of my old pole horse. He would drop and turn those end poles and there is no way I would be able to stay 2 handed! http://youtu.be/KYj3vZZOwv4
I always wanted to get into that 19 second club myself. Never happened. Best qualified time I ever ran was a 20.1. My wife did run countless 19's though. So it's in the family.
For Calibarrelrcr, I must know you. I've run at all those places in your video many, many times. That Sullivan, In arena is tough place for a pole horse. There's so much room past the last pole. Takes a good horse to sit down and turn that first end. Seen many run right on past there.
Edited by jd&ez 2014-03-06 9:40 PM
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Location: Fort Bragg North Carolina | 1 hand on end turns and two hands through weave!! Always it should be a habit :) if you need an exercise to help w fast hands practice rollbacks concentrating on body and hands (goin to the horn) have someone video you or critique you sometimes it's hard to tell of your picking up quickly enough. You can set up a barrel and pole and do figure 8 practice one hand in the turns getting ur hands up quick set them 21 feet apart at first. Do exercises slowly and then speed things up but even when ur working slowly u hands should be exaggerated as if u are RUNNInG the pattern :) | |
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