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Location: south central usa | Have a mare that gets winded very quickl, more so than a horse that is out of shape, and once she gets winded she'll blow for a good 15 minutes before her breathing gets closer to a normal rate. In the past we've tried supplements for anhidrosis with little success.
So we're looking at putting her possibly on a regimen of dex, and have docs suggest (but not recommend) ventipulmin or another form of bronchodilator. Any suggestions on either one and/or other ideas (possibly supplements to support lung function)?
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| I would rule out bleeding first.
Personally I won't put my horses on steroids as it suppresses the immune system, and increases the chance of laminitis |
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | Products with DMG are very helpful for improving lung integrity. My 'lunger' is on Pulmoshield and muscleup powder by Animed, not because I want her ripped, but because it's LOADED with DMG. She also has a few other things she gets depending on circumstances, but supplement wise those are the big ones. |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | My mare had Larangitis due to allergies. I had her scoped and then had her on a dex / ventipulmin regimine until I got her allergy shots. Have you exhausted all your resources to find out why she gets so winded first? |
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Location: south central usa | she's been scoped twice (6 months apart) and both looked clean. vet(s) didnt think she was bleeding, and was leaning more toward nonsweating. of the three that have looked at her so far, they only mention the bronchodilators in passing. planning on going to another vet by the end of the week (good equine vets are a haul) |
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| runnink - 2014-04-04 8:32 AM
she's been scoped twice (6 months apart) and both looked clean. vet(s) didnt think she was bleeding, and was leaning more toward nonsweating. of the three that have looked at her so far, they only mention the bronchodilators in passing. planning on going to another vet by the end of the week (good equine vets are a haul)
Wherever you go, see if you can find a close arena, and do a couple runs or sprints, don't cool her out load her and head to the vet. To scope for a bleeder it is best to be done after they have ran. |
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Location: south central usa | cheryl makofka - 2014-04-04 8:37 AM
runnink - 2014-04-04 8:32 AM
she's been scoped twice (6 months apart) and both looked clean. vet(s) didnt think she was bleeding, and was leaning more toward nonsweating. of the three that have looked at her so far, they only mention the bronchodilators in passing. planning on going to another vet by the end of the week (good equine vets are a haul)
Wherever you go, see if you can find a close arena, and do a couple runs or sprints, don't cool her out load her and head to the vet. To scope for a bleeder it is best to be done after they have ran.
on the second scope we worked her in a round pen for about 10-15 minutes before scoping (granted she didnt have that burst, must did get into her labored self)...good idea to try that next time around |
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| Used ventipulman on my old mare and she quit coughing when warming up and it seemed to really open up her air ways then could she fly! |
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| This year must be the doosie of all years for whatever my stallion is allergic to. We have -0- dust right now due to knee deep mud everywhere. I'm betting that means molds are through the roof?? Something has him coughing and blowing for over 10 minutes warming up. I put him on vent this past week hoping to clear him up for our opening show of the year this weekend. Last night was still 5 minutes or better. I have to wean him down from it before shows since he kinda 'roid rages on it, behavior wise. |
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Location: Blissfully happy Giants fan!!! | You need to get to a vet that has the machine that they hook up to them and they watch her airways WHILE she is working.
That is what we did on Grasshopper. Had we not and I did a regular scope, I would bet $1,000 every vet would have said he is a roarer or IAD. He isn't and had another issue only that type of scope would have seen.
I am actually thinking of putting my little mare on OxyGen. She did pretty well on it before and I want to see if it may help her a bit now. |
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Location: Texas | I would certainly try to find out what is causing the distress, rather than just masking the symptoms with a steroid drug. If it is allergies causing her problems, then the allergy shots can do wonders (I speak from experience). In my opinion, masking the problem isn't good for the long-term wellness of your horse. I would spend some time, and maybe a little extra money, to try to find the cause of her problem.
Good luck!
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| sassy&tessa - 2014-04-04 12:25 PM You need to get to a vet that has the machine that they hook up to them and they watch her airways WHILE she is working.
That is what we did on Grasshopper. Had we not and I did a regular scope, I would bet $1,000 every vet would have said he is a roarer or IAD. He isn't and had another issue only that type of scope would have seen.
I am actually thinking of putting my little mare on OxyGen. She did pretty well on it before and I want to see if it may help her a bit now.
Yup- scoping on a treadmill might give you much more info than a standing scope. My mare was diagnosed with. DDSP only after the treadmill scope- |
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| Definetly rule out Bleeding. I would use the Aculife patches on the lung points. And supplement with Platinum Performance and Platinum Longevity. Animed makes a product with Hiscorbadine with Vit C and K that's good too. |
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-04-04 6:37 AM
runnink - 2014-04-04 8:32 AM
she's been scoped twice (6 months apart) and both looked clean. vet(s) didnt think she was bleeding, and was leaning more toward nonsweating. of the three that have looked at her so far, they only mention the bronchodilators in passing. planning on going to another vet by the end of the week (good equine vets are a haul)
Wherever you go, see if you can find a close arena, and do a couple runs or sprints, don't cool her out load her and head to the vet. To scope for a bleeder it is best to be done after they have ran.
Most horses won't bleed unless they are competing. I know from experience. To build up a horses wind and lungs it would be best to high gallop and long trot them a couple times a week. To determine bleeding it would be best to have your horse scoped within 30 min- a couple hours after competing. |
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