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| SaraJean - 2014-04-22 10:31 AM I'm a bit late joining in here but it's been interesting reading everyones comments on this. Here's a video of one of my last outside colts I started. (I retired from breaking for other people a couple years ago & just start my own now) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJoohNes1ZEWhen he got here he was a halter broke 3 year old & this video was somewhere between 45-60 days training, I don't remember exactly anymore. With my outside horses I ask for quite a bit more than I do my own. If I'm training someone elses my goal by 60 days is that the colt is out of the roundpen & does not require any lunging or ground work before getting on, they ride off quietly across the pasture & have likely been through the cattle a few times. I want them to walk, trot & lope a nice quiet circle out in the open, nice light stop & backing relaxed, move both their hips & shoulders & a little bit of lateral work. I might even start working on simple lead changes. But it all depends on the individual, some come along very slowly & others progress much faster. With my own I start them at 2 and put about 10-20 rides on them. I want walk, trot, lope, stop & back in the roundpen & for them to be soft in the bridle. Then outside of the roundpen I want to be able to walk & trot around the little pasture behind my barn & trot a relaxed circle. When they get to this point I let them be done for the year & training starts again as a 3 year old. This!!!!!!! To me this is the beginning of a proper foundation.... Off subject for a second... What is my pet peeve in barrel racing is how not very many people realize how important it is to get their horses "correctly" broke in the face... Which shows if they can be ridden around faced up in frame... It all builds off on it's self when teaching shoulder control, hip control, and moving the ribs... Which leads to side passing, two tracking, half passing and lead departures with the horse flexed at the poll....soft in the jaw and not rooting it's face in the air at any time contact is applied to the reins. They say flex at the poll but when you see "what they are saying" it's not really flexed at the poll... So many people just leave their horse's head flopping in the air... I don't know if it's just people not knowing the real meaning of vertical flexion and how it is properly taught and that it is critical for the basics of building on collection OR they just don't know the feel to apply it and drive a horse up into the bridle ... Ok off my soap box..... Sarah's colts are how I get mine going....I like my 3 year olds to be riding at 60-90 days how she has hers going at 45 to 60 days... It's obviously her bread and butter and she's got lots of experience under belt... It takes me a little longer because I am in no hurry since they are my own horses and I don't start as many... As a 2yo I agree with 15 to 20 rides to get a good stop , back up, forward motion down, proficient at guiding, and getting soft in the bridle laterally and the first stages of vertical flexion. Then when I pick back up the following spring, their 3 year old year they are more often ready to start handling more time on their backs. So I start moving them off my leg, adding shoulder and hip countrol, leads and continued work at being bridled up while doing and learning new maneuvers... Everything builds on each other... Which eventually will lead to two tracking, half passing and a turn around... This is my colt at 3 at about 90 days.... I dont have any earlier videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dK1TRWSXlE
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| This thread is awesome. We have people commenting without watching videos, a tie down comment, talk of passing on Scamper at 60 days, wet saddle blankets, stirring the pot, talk about horses with heart vs those with foundation, flexion, where they should be at a certain time period, pros with calm horses in the gate, doping, lazy horses and so much more.
Throw in a comment about Frenchmans Guy not being fast enough, DTF colts chipping, guy riders being too rough and bad ground and we may indeed have the perfect barrel horse thread. I'm staying tuned for sure.
And I'd like to say I haven't watched all the videos but I HAVE seen videos (only on VHS, don't trust them shiny little discs) and would predict the unicorn in video 5c could outrun the zebra for sure. But only if you took the tie down off....
ETA, I was wrong. the unicorn is a little off in back. Must need natural hoof care.
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | Frenchie - 2014-04-22 6:58 PM This thread is awesome. We have people commenting without watching videos, a tie down comment, talk of passing on Scamper at 60 days, wet saddle blankets, stirring the pot, talk about horses with heart vs those with foundation, flexion, where they should be at a certain time period, pros with calm horses in the gate, doping, lazy horses and so much more.
Throw in a comment about Frenchmans Guy not being fast enough, DTF colts chipping, guy riders being too rough and bad ground and we may indeed have the perfect barrel horse thread. I'm staying tuned for sure.
And I'd like to say I haven't watched all the videos but I HAVE seen videos (only on VHS, don't trust them shiny little discs) and would predict the unicorn in video 5c could outrun the zebra for sure. But only if you took the tie down off....
ETA, I was wrong. the unicorn is a little off in back. Must need natural hoof care.
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Frenchie - 2014-04-22 6:58 PM This thread is awesome. We have people commenting without watching videos, a tie down comment, talk of passing on Scamper at 60 days, wet saddle blankets, stirring the pot, talk about horses with heart vs those with foundation, flexion, where they should be at a certain time period, pros with calm horses in the gate, doping, lazy horses and so much more.
Throw in a comment about Frenchmans Guy not being fast enough, DTF colts chipping, guy riders being too rough and bad ground and we may indeed have the perfect barrel horse thread. I'm staying tuned for sure.
And I'd like to say I haven't watched all the videos but I HAVE seen videos (only on VHS, don't trust them shiny little discs) and would predict the unicorn in video 5c could outrun the zebra for sure. But only if you took the tie down off....
ETA, I was wrong. the unicorn is a little off in back. Must need natural hoof care.
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| Frenchie - 2014-04-22 6:58 PM This thread is awesome. We have people commenting without watching videos, a tie down comment, talk of passing on Scamper at 60 days, wet saddle blankets, stirring the pot, talk about horses with heart vs those with foundation, flexion, where they should be at a certain time period, pros with calm horses in the gate, doping, lazy horses and so much more.
Throw in a comment about Frenchmans Guy not being fast enough, DTF colts chipping, guy riders being too rough and bad ground and we may indeed have the perfect barrel horse thread. I'm staying tuned for sure.
And I'd like to say I haven't watched all the videos but I HAVE seen videos (only on VHS, don't trust them shiny little discs) and would predict the unicorn in video 5c could outrun the zebra for sure. But only if you took the tie down off....
ETA, I was wrong. the unicorn is a little off in back. Must need natural hoof care.
But I LIKED the unicorn - especially when it farted rainbows and snorted pixie dust! LOL - call the natural hoof care gurus today!!   | |
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