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| Three 4 Luck - 2014-04-28 12:11 PM
Dinero10 - 2014-04-28 11:33 AM We have a many producers in my county that are breaking up grass to plant a commodity crop. These are prestine native meadows, very sad. Very hard to replace those prestine native meadows. I just shake my head.  all so they can plant corn - maybe with theÂ
downward trend of the corn prices, breaking out grass will slow down. Â
I was going to say, why in the world would they be sod-busting to plant corn with the price so low? We ended up only planting 120 acres of corn this year and that was only on ground that needed the rotation.
Another question: I'm not familiar with farming in the Plains, but aren't there conservation requirements for farming "in the program"? We can't put new wetlands into production and still be eligible to participate in the farm program.Â
depending on certain things - yes. So if the ground is enrolled in WRP and CRP - you have restrictions. Some entities, if you have a lein on the ground, will dictate what is done to it. Most often, when you own it out right ... you can do as you please.
ALSO - WHAT is UP with this wind this year??? My SO is an applicator - so he sprays and applies anhydrous, spreads dry fertilizer, etc - and I swear he has only had one good day to spray! CRAZY! |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Three 4 Luck - 2014-04-28 12:11 PM Dinero10 - 2014-04-28 11:33 AM We have a many producers in my county that are breaking up grass to plant a commodity crop. These are prestine native meadows, very sad. Very hard to replace those prestine native meadows. I just shake my head. all so they can plant corn - maybe with the
downward trend of the corn prices, breaking out grass will slow down. I was going to say, why in the world would they be sod-busting to plant corn with the price so low? We ended up only planting 120 acres of corn this year and that was only on ground that needed the rotation.
Another question: I'm not familiar with farming in the Plains, but aren't there conservation requirements for farming "in the program"? We can't put new wetlands into production and still be eligible to participate in the farm program.
There are tons of acres of native pasture being ripped up so the farmers can plant crops. The yields wont be worth a hill of beans for a few years but its all ok since they'll get their Gov subsidy checks and who gives a rip about the rancher and the fact that these native grasses are just that....NATIVE. My FIL has ripped up native grasses where you could still see the dips and tracks of the wagon trains from our ancestors. His great uncle was a farmer but he left strips of grasses in certain spots of fields to help slow down the water running when it rained, to help slow down the dirt from blowing when it didn't rain. Sorry for my rant. I'm a little bitter. I can't do anything with the land that he farms but I can at least have a say in my families land. |
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Location: Kansas | Whiteboy - 2014-04-28 11:30 AM Griz - 2014-04-28 5:34 AM Okay, I've lived in Kansas all of my life and the wind has always blown but NOT LIKE THIS - with 40 mph sustaining winds day after day after day. I mean, I don't EVER remember it being SO windy my grandma or aunts couldn't hang clothes out on the line - they did it daily - there isn't hardly EVER a day now where I can hang clothes out - no matter how many clothespins I use - WHY?? - Is it because they destroyed the hedge rows? Its because nebraska blows and Oklahoma sucks, therefore windy in Kansas! 
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Location: South Dakota | CYA Ranch - 2014-04-28 12:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2014-04-28 12:11 PM Dinero10 - 2014-04-28 11:33 AM We have a many producers in my county that are breaking up grass to plant a commodity crop. These are prestine native meadows, very sad. Very hard to replace those prestine native meadows. I just shake my head. all so they can plant corn - maybe with the
downward trend of the corn prices, breaking out grass will slow down. I was going to say, why in the world would they be sod-busting to plant corn with the price so low? We ended up only planting 120 acres of corn this year and that was only on ground that needed the rotation.
Another question: I'm not familiar with farming in the Plains, but aren't there conservation requirements for farming "in the program"? We can't put new wetlands into production and still be eligible to participate in the farm program.
It makes me sick to see native grass broke up....some people just have no appreciation for it, and it is just plain sad.....I think it is a treasure to be cherished and protected... |
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Location: Kansas | Griz - 2014-04-28 10:18 AM
HarlanLivesOn - 2014-04-28 8:37 AM I'm a firm believer in weather coming in cycles and I read like a year ago that if the math was done correctly and the El Nino weather pattern happened like they thought it would, we would be in for the same conditions we had during the dust bowl. If you remember, lack of rain and windy conditions. Thankfully we know more about farming and how to treat our ground better now days so I doubt we'd see dust storms to the magnitude they did then, but with the wreck that happened outside of Liberal, KS yesterday on 54 Highway, it seems pretty similar.
I would think we would be smarter now about soil conservation but the destruction of the hedge rows just doesn't make sense to me - it looks like the fields are losing valuable topsoil to me. I opened the windows of the house because it was so humid and I have a HELL of a mess of dirt to clean up now. I guess there's no point in dusting until we turn the A/C on!Â
True about the hedge rows... You'd THINK we'd be smart enough these days not to get rid of them...... Maybe we'll figure the hard way again this time about hedge rows as we did about over using land back in the 30s. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | CYA Ranch - 2014-04-28 12:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2014-04-28 12:11 PM Dinero10 - 2014-04-28 11:33 AM We have a many producers in my county that are breaking up grass to plant a commodity crop. These are prestine native meadows, very sad. Very hard to replace those prestine native meadows. I just shake my head. all so they can plant corn - maybe with the
downward trend of the corn prices, breaking out grass will slow down. I was going to say, why in the world would they be sod-busting to plant corn with the price so low? We ended up only planting 120 acres of corn this year and that was only on ground that needed the rotation.
Another question: I'm not familiar with farming in the Plains, but aren't there conservation requirements for farming "in the program"? We can't put new wetlands into production and still be eligible to participate in the farm program.
Some people have zero sense. I had an uncle who farmed that way. After he passed, we worked his ground for a couple of years until my aunt sold it. There were hip deep gullies where he had been planting bayou banks without terracing or doing grass strips or SOMETHING to keep it from washing the soil away. I don't understand being that short sighted. For the most part, our farmers in this part of the world are very conservation minded and take great care of the land, whether they own it or not. It was disappointing to find what he had done, BUT not surprising because where we have adjoining land, he had kept pushing the turnrows further and further our direction. He wanted every square inch he could grab. I just don't understand that mentality.
On another note, I'm happy to see that cover crops are coming back into common usage again. We've been no-till and minimum-till for a long time, so I'm not sure why we're just now getting back into this, but it's going to make a huge difference, I think.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | ridejg - 2014-04-28 12:52 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-28 12:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2014-04-28 12:11 PM Dinero10 - 2014-04-28 11:33 AM We have a many producers in my county that are breaking up grass to plant a commodity crop. These are prestine native meadows, very sad. Very hard to replace those prestine native meadows. I just shake my head. all so they can plant corn - maybe with the
downward trend of the corn prices, breaking out grass will slow down. I was going to say, why in the world would they be sod-busting to plant corn with the price so low? We ended up only planting 120 acres of corn this year and that was only on ground that needed the rotation.
Another question: I'm not familiar with farming in the Plains, but aren't there conservation requirements for farming "in the program"? We can't put new wetlands into production and still be eligible to participate in the farm program.
The Highmore area has lost so much pasture and hay land it makes me sad and sickened.  |
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Location: Phoenix | The wind is why I DO NOT miss living in my hometown. If there was a rodeo and it was blowing the day before--I would just skip practicing. Sometimes I'd just not even ride! When the wind blows your cinch away from you while saddling up--it's a good time to call it a day!!!! |
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| hammer_time - 2014-04-29 9:46 AM The wind is why I DO NOT miss living in my hometown. If there was a rodeo and it was blowing the day before--I would just skip practicing. Sometimes I'd just not even ride! When the wind blows your cinch away from you while saddling up--it's a good time to call it a day!!!!
That is here ALL the time anymore and no WAY can you saddle without someone holding the pad or being completely out of the wind, the pad will end up in Nebraska! (And of course then my horse will spook and pull back - always a good time)!  |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | hammer_time - 2014-04-29 9:46 AM The wind is why I DO NOT miss living in my hometown. If there was a rodeo and it was blowing the day before--I would just skip practicing. Sometimes I'd just not even ride! When the wind blows your cinch away from you while saddling up--it's a good time to call it a day!!!!
I've learned to saddle inside since I'm normally by myself so I have no one to hold the pad and cinch. LOL |
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| Ive lived in new Mexico for four years now and we're having 65 mile an hour winds. |
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