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Spark572
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2014-04-29 2:28 PM
Subject: Dragging hind toes?


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My 8 year old gelding drags his hind feet a little bit. It isn't noticeable on hard ground, only in deeper dirt, like an arena. He's had an on and off issue with turning the 1st, and I'm thinking the two might be connected? So far this year he's drug a barrel over to win a race and placed in the 3d with almost 700 horses. Then other times he'll act like he wants to go up the wall. He went to a lameness vet last fall, and he didn't find anything wrong. I'm going to take him back there or maybe to a different vet, but I'm just looking for opinions on what it might be.

Here's him running last weekend: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pYeJ-FM6dc 
His 2nd and 3rd are always good and even w/ the 1st barrel on that run, he was .9 off the winner.
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ninaom
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-04-29 3:38 PM
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I am interested to hear any responses. My Arab drags his hind toes terribly.
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MsDuchessGoTe
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-04-29 3:39 PM
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Stifle issues.
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Just Bring It
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-04-29 3:56 PM
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Yep stilfes. Lots of long trotting, going over ground poles, and backing will help. Try to avoid loping and circles for at least a week while you condition the stifles. 
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-04-29 4:00 PM
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I third the stifle problems
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-04-29 4:03 PM
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the hopping makes me think hocks, but it could be either hocks or stifles. I would get a second opinion because he definitely looks in pain in that video.
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Just Bring It
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-04-29 4:07 PM
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Bunny hopping in the hind end is also a big indicator to stifles. A horse with stifle issues usually would rather not lope because that is when they usually catch especialy when in a tight circle. 
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Dinero10
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2014-04-29 4:39 PM
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 mine does drag and it has been an indication of hocks.  when taken care of he doesn't drag .
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Crowned Image
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-04-29 4:54 PM
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Just Bring It - 2014-04-29 3:56 PM

Yep stilfes. Lots of long trotting, going over ground poles, and backing will help. Try to avoid loping and circles for at least a week while you condition the stifles. 

aside from exercise, do you do anything else (ie: poultice, cold hosing, liniment?) to help get said horse "better?"
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WYOTurn-n-Burn
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2014-04-29 4:55 PM
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I've heard it can be both and by the looks of your horse in the video I'd say both of them. 

Look at his tail set when he comes into the arena; when they hold their tail like up and out its usually a sign of pain. He's also bunny hopping the turn, which can be hocks and the toe dragging can be hocks and stifles.

If he were mine I'd be taking him to the vet for some rads and injections. Keep in mind the rads can show clean, but that doesn't mean there won't be inflammation in the joint.
 
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Just Bring It
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-04-29 5:12 PM
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Crowned Image - 2014-04-29 4:54 PM
Just Bring It - 2014-04-29 3:56 PM Yep stilfes. Lots of long trotting, going over ground poles, and backing will help. Try to avoid loping and circles for at least a week while you condition the stifles. 
aside from exercise, do you do anything else (ie: poultice, cold hosing, liniment?) to help get said horse "better?"

I love Sore No More poultice. I find it soothes sore stifles and helps keep them tight. The number one thing for stifles is exercise. There is no getting around that as long as there is no injury involved such as a tear, bone spur, etc. Keeping the horse turned out and not stalled is also important. 
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Just Bring It
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-04-29 5:13 PM
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WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2014-04-29 4:55 PM I've heard it can be both and by the looks of your horse in the video I'd say both of them. 



Look at his tail set when he comes into the arena; when they hold their tail like up and out its usually a sign of pain. He's also bunny hopping the turn, which can be hocks and the toe dragging can be hocks and stifles.



If he were mine I'd be taking him to the vet for some rads and injections. Keep in mind the rads can show clean, but that doesn't mean there won't be inflammation in the joint.

 

Yep they do coincide quite often.  
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Spark572
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2014-04-29 5:16 PM
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Thanks everyone! I figured he had something going on, I'm gonna make him a vet appointment tomorrow.
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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2014-04-29 6:10 PM
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Stifles but have the opposite hock checked also. In other words if the left stifle is sore quite often the right hock will be sore from compensation.
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2014-04-29 6:36 PM
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WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2014-04-29 5:55 PM I've heard it can be both and by the looks of your horse in the video I'd say both of them. 



Look at his tail set when he comes into the arena; when they hold their tail like up and out its usually a sign of pain. He's also bunny hopping the turn, which can be hocks and the toe dragging can be hocks and stifles.



If he were mine I'd be taking him to the vet for some rads and injections. Keep in mind the rads can show clean, but that doesn't mean there won't be inflammation in the joint.

 

Ditto to that.. My one gelding showed clean..no synovial fluid in his joints..  one hock and milky the other..Id go by symptoms this time and inject.
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-04-29 8:30 PM
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Just Bring It - 2014-04-29 5:13 PM

WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2014-04-29 4:55 PM I've heard it can be both and by the looks of your horse in the video I'd say both of them. 



Look at his tail set when he comes into the arena; when they hold their tail like up and out its usually a sign of pain. He's also bunny hopping the turn, which can be hocks and the toe dragging can be hocks and stifles.



If he were mine I'd be taking him to the vet for some rads and injections. Keep in mind the rads can show clean, but that doesn't mean there won't be inflammation in the joint.

 

Yep they do coincide quite often.  

my thinking of this is because their actions are linked. the stifle can't flex without flexing the hock, and vice versa. It's called the reciprocal apparatus!


*sigh*. I am taking a study break…large animal anatomy final exam is tomorrow.
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daisycake123
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2014-04-29 9:03 PM
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It could be stifle and or,hocks or both. tale him to a good lamness vet. Let,then tell you.
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