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| I'm curious about the different uses, feel, pros, cons of the two. I have tried the Jim Warner short shank (which seems to be the popular choice) and like it but the Stivers seems like a interesting design that I could see being useful, but I have never used one and I never see much mention of it.
Just wondering if anyone has experience or preference of the two and why.
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
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| I've had both. Sold the Stivers because I didn't like the way they sat on my horses face and the action wasn't that exciting. I much prefer the way the Jim Warner works and how it reacts in hand. |
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 Big Gun
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Location: Texas | I've used both and eventually went to the little s |
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| The Stivers is one of my favorite hackamores and I have quite a few hackamores as I love a horse to ride in a hack, if possible. The difference in my experience between the Stivers and Jim Warner is that the JW is going to take a little more of the bend out of a horse and keep them a tad stiffer. It's a according to what you need the hackamore to do for your horse as to which would be better. |
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| i feel the stivers has more rate control than warner. i guess it depends on the horse. i love both of them. i use short shanks. |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I have both and like the both of them, but the Jim Warner I use it more because I like the swivel cheek {shanks} peices.
Edited by Southtxponygirl 2014-04-30 11:26 PM
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| Thanks for the feedback!
I know everyone has their preferences and it depends on the horse, obviously, but I was curious about the different functions of the two. Thank you. |
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| they both will put their butt in the ground and get their nose. don't hang on their head. let them free run and bump at barrel, release. keeps them from dumping on their front end or running past barrel. you got to cue them right. don't sit down too quick. ride them all the way up into the turn, sit down and bump, release, drive out with outside leg. warner shanks swivel where stivers is more rigid. bottom line, they work. |
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Location: Somewhere around here | scared of sharks - 2014-05-03 11:35 PM
they both will put their butt in the ground and get their nose. don't hang on their head. let them free run and bump at barrel, release. keeps them from dumping on their front end or running past barrel. you got to cue them right. don't sit down too quick. ride them all the way up into the turn, sit down and bump, release, drive out with outside leg. warner shanks swivel where stivers is more rigid. bottom line, they work.
Yes yes, love this. I just started getting back into hackamores and forgot to really know how to use one on a horse but after reading a few articles this sums it up perfectly! |
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 I Don't Brag
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| I believe the JW will stiffen one up and the Stivers helps to keep them supple,something most hacks will not do. The Stivers folds up against the face.....think of it as a different sort of gag action. The is a little alett or asking action in the Stivers from the time you start to ask until hard contact (or demand)......does that make any sense?
Edited to add, I have a collection of Stivers hacks and combos, but running the old seasoned mare in a Little S because I need almost nothing at all. Depends on the horse and the riders hands as to what will work best.
Edited by rodeoveteran 2016-04-11 9:56 AM
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