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 Night Watchman
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Location: Central Montana | Recently had a horse diagnosed with Navicular, holes show in the xrays. Talked to my vet about options, mulled it over for a few weeks. Have tried two different types of shoes to see how sound we can get that way. Asked about Tildren and injections.
After weighing my options I asked the vet to send in a presepcription for Adequan and Previocoxx as those were part of the options we discussed. Vet said just to come in, he had the stuff on hand.
The clinic wanted $65/vial for Adequan and $3.00/pill for Previcoxx........I know from Valley Vet and Farm Vet I can get the Adequan for around $45/vial ($38/vial for a 10 dose bottle) and the Previocoxx for about $75/60 pill bottle.
I have also decided to try Tildren but there is no way I can afford to treat my horse for very long at those costs and the vet wouldn't send in the prescrption. Now I'm at a loss. |
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 Money Eating Baggage Owner
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Location: Phoenix | I found a vet who is cool about it and actually orders in bulk to lower the cost. Sorry that my answer is more helpful. :/ |
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  Ms. Manners
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Location: Oklahoma | Have you asked the vet if they would go ahead and approve the prescriptions through Valley Vet? It doesn't hut to ask and I would hope most vets understand we want to do best by our horse, but also want the best deal we can find. |
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 Husband Spoiler
Posts: 4151
Location: North Dakota | I would just let your vet know that you found it some place cheaper that you would like to order from. He may even be willing to match those prices for you. |
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The Advice Guru
Posts: 6419
| I have used tildren for other things, but my vet administers it. I would never think of administering tildren myself as there are too many complications that could arise. If given iv it has to be administered over 10 days.
For prescriptions I'm lucky my vet encourages me to find the best deal possible. |
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 Hog Tie My Mojo
Posts: 4847
Location: Opelousas, LA | I can completely understand why a vet wants to make a profit off of keeping certain medications in stock which is very handy when you want them quickly. On the other hand, if my horse is going to have to be on something for an extended period of time I expect the vet to help me out and sign the script.
I would buy about 2 weeks to a month worth of meds from the vet and then explain that in order to keep your horse on the meds, you need to be able to order them at a discount. If the vet doesn't understand then I would be shopping for a new vet. I honestly can't stand for a vet to try and suck your wallet dry every chance they get.
Most of the online pharmacy websites make it VERY easy for the vet to give you the script. They will do all the paperwork and the vet just has to sign and fax it back to them. |
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| Don't forget that adequan is on indefinite back order and valley vet has not had it for months. |
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Extreme Veteran
Posts: 330
| Have you looked into Pentosan? Similar to Adequan (in function) but much cheaper. Administered IM, if you're comfortable with doing shots (which it sounds like you are if you are looking into Adequan...)
You can get it from Wedgewood Pharmacy if your vet will call in a script.
Average size horse gets approximately 6 mL per dose, and a 50 mL bottle is $115.00 (250 mg/mL concentration) so that ends up being 8 doses per bottle, $14.38/dose. One dose per week for 4 weeks, monthly thereafter.
My 8 year old is on it right now for a preventative (he has some minor changes in his hocks, the benefit is that it's systemic, so I don't need to do hock injections, this covers everything). I have noticed a difference since him being on it for two months (he is no longer swapping his leads in the back, nice collected lope).
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Night Watchman
Posts: 5516
Location: Central Montana | Sorry I didn't explain well enough. A vet will be doing the Tildren, actually a different vet that is 3 1/2 hours away because my local one didn't even know what Tildren was when I asked if my horse would be a good candidate for it. There is no one really close by that does it. The local vet is the race track vet too so I'm suprised he isn't up on newer treatments.
As far as the prescriptions......he wouldn't send them in, I asked, he would only sell me what he had on hand which was at a large mark up. I didn't know if there was some special magic phrase any of you used for your vets to send them in for you or what the deal was 
Edited by GoinJettin 2014-05-28 8:36 AM
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 Undercover Amish Mafia Member
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Location: Kansas | I've always ordered from valley vet, you might check with drs foster and smith (I believe that is what it is)
Depending on MG wise for the previcox it's $2.39 a pill for 227mg tablets, and I believe $1.39 a pill (60ct bottle) for 57mg tablets.
And adequan is $44 a vile with them.
ETA: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/
Edited by hoofs_in_motion 2014-05-28 8:02 AM
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Location: Texas | GoinJettin - I PMed you. |
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 Tough Patooty
Posts: 2615
Location: Sperry, OK | Vets by law have to give you a perscription for mail order if you request one. Ask specficially for a perscription to do mail order and don't take no for an answer. They might charge you a fee for writing the script, that is their descresion, but they have to write it.
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The Advice Guru
Posts: 6419
| ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-05-28 9:52 AM
Vets by law have to give you a perscription for mail order if you request one. Â Ask specficially for a perscription to do mail order and don't take no for an answer. Â They might charge you a fee for writing the script, that is their descresion, but they have to write it.
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I question this when the medication is liscenced to be administered by a vet, how can they give a px for something they will not be administering? |
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Tough Patooty
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Location: Sperry, OK | cheryl makofka - 2014-05-28 10:03 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-05-28 9:52 AM Vets by law have to give you a perscription for mail order if you request one. Ask specficially for a perscription to do mail order and don't take no for an answer. They might charge you a fee for writing the script, that is their descresion, but they have to write it.
I question this when the medication is liscenced to be administered by a vet, how can they give a px for something they will not be administering?
This is how they can write a prescription for drugs labeled for vet use only:
15. “Veterinary prescription drugs” means such prescription
items as are in the possession of a person regularly and lawfully
engaged in the manufacture, transportation, storage, or wholesale
or retail distribution of veterinary drugs and the federal Food and
Drug Administration-approved human drugs for animals which
because of their toxicity or other potential for harmful effects, or
method of use, or the collateral measures necessary for use, are
labeled by the manufacturer or distributor in compliance with
federal law and regulations to be sold only to or on the prescription
order or under the supervision of a licensed veterinarian for use in
the course of professional practice. Veterinary prescription drugs
shall not include over-the-counter products for which adequate
directions for lay use can be written.
Edited by ACEINTHEHOLE 2014-05-28 10:14 AM
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 Owner of a ratting catting machine
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| Sure, umm, magic phrase:
"Thanks for your time working on my horse, I appreciate you very much. However, I'm spending a shttload to keep my horse sound, and I've found some good deals on the drugs you recommended. Yours are marked up, I can't afford them. I'm going to someone who will help me, please ask the tech to get my horses file and X-rays ready to travel. Again, thanks a ton."
Vets that don't listen to me, want my money instead of doing the best by my animal that they can, and think they have me over a barrel really piss me off. They seem to forget that they're not the only vet in the US, and that there are MANY wonderful people and horse vets that bend over backwards for people truly interested in helping their animal.
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Extreme Veteran
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| ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-05-28 11:09 AM
cheryl makofka - 2014-05-28 10:03 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-05-28 9:52 AM Vets by law have to give you a perscription for mail order if you request one. Â Ask specficially for a perscription to do mail order and don't take no for an answer. Â They might charge you a fee for writing the script, that is their descresion, but they have to write it.
 I question this when the medication is liscenced to be administered by a vet, how can they give a px for something they will not be administering?
This is how they can write a prescription for drugs labeled for vet use only:  15. “Veterinary prescription drugs” means such prescription items as are in the possession of a person regularly and lawfully engaged in the manufacture, transportation, storage, or wholesale or retail distribution of veterinary drugs and the federal Food and Drug Administration-approved human drugs for animals which because of their toxicity or other potential for harmful effects, or method of use, or the collateral measures necessary for use, are labeled by the manufacturer or distributor in compliance with federal law and regulations to be sold only to or on the prescription order or under the supervision of a licensed veterinarian for use in the course of professional practice. Veterinary prescription drugs shall not include over-the-counter products for which adequate directions for lay use can be written.Â
And if you want to get *REALLY* technical, your vet shouldn't even be prescribing Previcox, they should be prescribing Equioxx. |
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Tough Patooty
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Location: Sperry, OK | SuckerForHorses - 2014-05-28 12:37 PM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-05-28 11:09 AM cheryl makofka - 2014-05-28 10:03 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-05-28 9:52 AM Vets by law have to give you a perscription for mail order if you request one. Ask specficially for a perscription to do mail order and don't take no for an answer. They might charge you a fee for writing the script, that is their descresion, but they have to write it.
I question this when the medication is liscenced to be administered by a vet, how can they give a px for something they will not be administering?
This is how they can write a prescription for drugs labeled for vet use only:
15. “Veterinary prescription drugs” means such prescription
items as are in the possession of a person regularly and lawfully
engaged in the manufacture, transportation, storage, or wholesale
or retail distribution of veterinary drugs and the federal Food and
Drug Administration-approved human drugs for animals which
because of their toxicity or other potential for harmful effects, or
method of use, or the collateral measures necessary for use, are
labeled by the manufacturer or distributor in compliance with
federal law and regulations to be sold only to or on the prescription
order or under the supervision of a licensed veterinarian for use in
the course of professional practice. Veterinary prescription drugs
shall not include over-the-counter products for which adequate
directions for lay use can be written. And if you want to get *REALLY* technical, your vet shouldn't even be prescribing Previcox, they should be prescribing Equioxx.
True, my fault I just used the drug name, not the brand name... sorry about that. |
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Extreme Veteran
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| I wasn't pointing to YOU necessarily, just that "technically" no vet should be prescribing Previcox (by name of Previcox).
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