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Griz
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-06-05 1:16 PM
Subject: RE: Really need some help..................


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Hollywood's Fan - 2014-06-05 12:53 PM
turn3nhome - 2014-06-03 2:32 PM I have a gelding that is , I guess you would say cinchy, BUT what happens is totally involuntary.  If you happen to get him a little too tight too quickly, he just falls down and lays there, frozen!  And Lord help me if he's tied, then it looks as if he's hanging himself!  I am usually very careful how I cinch him up and all is good but at a show this weekend, I pulled the cinch up close, not even snug yet, turned my back and he fell out!  Lucky I wasn't standing next to him!  We got the lead undone and then the offbillet and finally, after about a minute he jumped up like "What"????  I redid everything and walked him, cinched, walked, cinched and all was good but I was really nervous about it all!  Any info, help, advice??????????  It was really scary, I felt so bad for him.   
I haven't read all the replies, but it seems to me you already know the solution.  DON"T tie him up before you cinch him.  Get a Blocker Tie Ring, or an Aussie Tie Ring (from Clinton Anderson, same thing) and use that to tie him to saddle.  When you start to cinch, do it very loosely and walk him a few steps, tighten it some more, walk him a few more steps and tighten a little more.  You are going to have to cinch him a little at a time because he is sensitive.  This does not go away with some horses no matter what you do.  My good rodeo mare would pull back if you cinched her too tight.  After the second time, I never tied her again.  I competed on her that way for 12 years, it was just her. 

 This is exactly how my mare was.
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turn3nhome
Reg. Mar 2006
Posted 2014-06-06 8:27 AM
Subject: RE: Really need some help..................



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Southtxponygirl - 2014-06-05 1:54 PM
svincent - 2014-06-05 12:22 PM
turn3nhome - 2014-06-05 9:12 AM
roxieannie - 2014-06-04 3:10 PM  If it is the Vegas nerve , try a different legenth girth.
Longer or shorter???

 
Longer
I agree the longer the cinch the better. I hate seeing a cinch that is to short, I rather see it being to long then to short.  

The cinch I use only has about an inch or two on each side after cinching up............I'll have to measure but it's either a 34 or 36" so that should be good right? 
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-06-06 10:02 AM
Subject: RE: Really need some help..................


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turn3nhome - 2014-06-06 8:27 AM

Southtxponygirl - 2014-06-05 1:54 PM
svincent - 2014-06-05 12:22 PM
turn3nhome - 2014-06-05 9:12 AM
roxieannie - 2014-06-04 3:10 PM Β If it is the Vegas nerve , try a different legenth girth.
Longer or shorter???

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Longer
I agree the longer the cinch the better. I hate seeing a cinch that is to short, I rather see it being to longΒ then to short. Β 

The cinch I use only has about an inch or two on each side after cinching up............I'll have to measure but it's either a 34 or 36" so that should be good right?Β 

What type of cinch do you use?

If you are not using a shearling, maybe try one of those, more padding, more protection.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-06-06 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: Really need some help..................



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turn3nhome - 2014-06-06 8:27 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2014-06-05 1:54 PM
svincent - 2014-06-05 12:22 PM
turn3nhome - 2014-06-05 9:12 AM
roxieannie - 2014-06-04 3:10 PM  If it is the Vegas nerve , try a different legenth girth.
Longer or shorter???

 
Longer
I agree the longer the cinch the better. I hate seeing a cinch that is to short, I rather see it being to long then to short.  
The cinch I use only has about an inch or two on each side after cinching up............I'll have to measure but it's either a 34 or 36" so that should be good right? 

 I have huge horses and I have 36's on them and one gelding wears a 34.  If you only have a inch or 2 on each side I would say to long, can you show a picture of your horse cinched up. I have at least 8 inches between cinch and saddle.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-06-06 10:49 AM
Subject: RE: Really need some help..................



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cheryl makofka - 2014-06-06 10:02 AM
turn3nhome - 2014-06-06 8:27 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2014-06-05 1:54 PM
svincent - 2014-06-05 12:22 PM
turn3nhome - 2014-06-05 9:12 AM
roxieannie - 2014-06-04 3:10 PM  If it is the Vegas nerve , try a different legenth girth.
Longer or shorter???

 
Longer
I agree the longer the cinch the better. I hate seeing a cinch that is to short, I rather see it being to long then to short.  
The cinch I use only has about an inch or two on each side after cinching up............I'll have to measure but it's either a 34 or 36" so that should be good right? 
What type of cinch do you use? If you are not using a shearling, maybe try one of those, more padding, more protection.

I agree on the shearling, love them. I use the Professionals Choice shearling roper style.  
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coco~n~cash
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2014-06-06 10:54 AM
Subject: RE: Really need some help..................



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My gelding does this but he pulls back at the trailer or rears up so I have learned to cinch slowly and walk him out. I have treated him for ulcers and had him chiro. He is getting better with my new saddle and the more I ride the more he behaves. but I have not ridden since the first of April still stuck in the state of LA for a few more days...thank you Jesus I get to go home soon!!! 
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annemarea
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2014-06-06 11:26 AM
Subject: RE: Really need some help..................



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A few years ago I went through all of the above with my mare. She would lay down, set back, run backwards 100 mph, etc etc. Thousands in vet bills, saddles, and cinches later....it was the PSSM causing this. I can literally predict my mare's behavior by knowing whether she's had days off, been on grass, or been dry lotted. Her reaction will be directly related to how much starch she has consumed and how much she's been worked. She will now stand perfectly relaxed and calm...no more broken leads...no tie rings necessary.
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