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Martinagale, training forks, or draw reins?
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RunninOnARooster
Reg. Nov 2006
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2014-06-05 7:55 PM
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Martinagale, training forks, or draw reins?
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Which do you like to use for getting a young horse to collect. This horse already has a natural low head set but needs help staying collected.
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barrelchasinmonki
Reg. Oct 2003
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2014-06-05 8:21 PM
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Location: the land of dust & sticks
Draw reins, I set them high unless I have a horse that's super high headed
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dianeguinn
Reg. Oct 2003
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2014-06-05 8:28 PM
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barrelchasinmonki - 2014-06-05 8:21 PM
Draw reins, I set them high unless I have a horse that's super high headed
Ditto.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
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2014-06-05 8:54 PM
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I would suggest a German martingale unless you feel confident working draw reins.
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redmansmyman11
Reg. Jan 2012
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2014-06-05 8:58 PM
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I use a running martingale but make my own so I'm not stuck on a set length between the center and the rings the reins go through. I'll try to find a picture and post it if you're interested.
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
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2014-06-05 8:59 PM
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None of the above. I personally prefer to teach a youngster head set and collection without the aids. Just personal opinion. I don't claim to be a trainer though.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
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2014-06-05 9:02 PM
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CYA Ranch - 2014-06-05 8:59 PM
None of the above. I personally prefer to teach a youngster head set and collection without the aids. Just personal opinion. I don't claim to be a trainer though.
Very true
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LuckyNGG'sGirl
Reg. Jun 2012
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2014-06-05 10:18 PM
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CYA Ranch - 2014-06-05 8:59 PM
None of the above. I personally prefer to teach a youngster head set and collection without the aids. Just personal opinion. I don't claim to be a trainer though.
I agree with this - though I have used all three. You can feel the horse better with no aids and that way you know exactly how much pressure you're applying to his mouth.
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Morab76
Reg. Feb 2008
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2014-06-05 10:34 PM
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Collection comes from behind. The training tools you mention can be valuable tools, but a young horse needs to learn to shift its balance and weight bearing to the rear and not be heavy on the forhand. Once this is achieved, collection and a flexed/relaxed head set will follow. You will also see how the horse will learn to break over at the poll and me truly collected rather than the crest of the neck being thr highest point
(false collection and flexion
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It will take more time to get what you are looking for by not using draw reins or artingales, but the effects will last longer and impact the horse's overall performance and rideability in a positive way.
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RunninOnARooster
Reg. Nov 2006
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2014-06-05 11:05 PM
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RE: Martinagale, training forks, or draw reins?
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Location: Peach State
I feel like I'm already in his mouth too much trying to get him to stay broken at the poll
(like I said before his head/neck set is already low
) while still squeezing him to keep driving his butt up under him. Any advice for this without using an aid, bc I have used them all but would prefer not to.
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Sangria
Reg. Nov 2003
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2014-06-05 11:08 PM
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Steady hands, seat and legs used together and properly
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daisycake123
Reg. Dec 2006
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2014-06-06 5:38 AM
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Sock Snob
Posts: 3021
Pick your hands up hold until he gives and let go. People make the mistake hold the reins and also hold hands low.
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TNcowgirl88
Reg. Jul 2008
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2014-06-06 8:23 AM
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I use german martingales and draw reins after my colts already break at the poll. I too set my draw reins high.
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MC1993
Reg. Mar 2013
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2014-06-06 9:40 AM
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Location: London Ontario
Your seat, legs and impulsion!!! When I ride my seat controls most of my horse, I suggest taking some lessons from a good coach as they may see something on the ground that you don't notice riding
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