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Location: ND | Has anyone had a horse lose a frog? Did it grow back amd how long did it take? My two year old filly lost hers from swelling from a horrible abscess..
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Location: SE Louisiana | Horses shed the frog twice a year spring and fall.... I have no idea if this will grow back.. Normally it takes frog pressure to keep them healthy and growing... Without an added pad to provide pressure to what is left... I just can't say.. |
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| Yes, my mare had what we think was an abscess under her frog, or possibly thrush in the central sulcus. Either way, under the frog was NASTY, we did have her on antibiotics at the time because in addition to being able to pull the frog back with a hoof pick and see inside the foot, her leg was swollen (which is why we thought abscess).
The frog eventually just fell off, and is now almost completely grown back with healthy frog.
ETA: you could put a hoof pick between the heel bulbs, and literally pull the frog back to see down inside behind the frog.
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| komet. - 2014-09-02 7:20 PM
Horses shed the frog twice a year spring and fall.... I have no idea if this will grow back.. Normally it takes frog pressure to keep them healthy and growing... Without an added pad to provide pressure to what is left... I just can't say..
IMO, if the entire frog all of a sudden drops off, it's NOT normal shedding, it's diseased.
If pieces and parts of the frog wear down and flake off, that is normal "shedding" from wear and tear on the frog.
Entire frogs should not just be falling from the hoof as a whole piece - there is an underlying issue if that's happening. |
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Location: ND | Thank you for the replies. I realize this is not normal shedding and was caused by the abscess. Just praying she will grow it back and quickly! Thanks again! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Had one do this and lost his frog due to an abscess, it did grow back but was kinda funky looking afterwards, but he was ok, seens like it took like 6 months to heal, but this was maybe 17 years ago so I really cant remember. |
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| SuckerForHorses - 2014-09-03 7:21 AM komet. - 2014-09-02 7:20 PM Horses shed the frog twice a year spring and fall.... I have no idea if this will grow back.. Normally it takes frog pressure to keep them healthy and growing... Without an added pad to provide pressure to what is left... I just can't say.. IMO, if the entire frog all of a sudden drops off, it's NOT normal shedding, it's diseased. If pieces and parts of the frog wear down and flake off, that is normal "shedding" from wear and tear on the frog. Entire frogs should not just be falling from the hoof as a whole piece - there is an underlying issue if that's happening.
Most of todays horses don't really have a chance to shed naturally. BUt as Komet said they do shed twice a year. I have seen healthy horses that didn't have regular hoof care shed the frog completely and within a couple months it had regrown.
The first time one of my own horses shed the frog completely I freaked out also. When I called the vet he told me not to worry it is natural. |
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| suzy2qtee - 2014-09-03 1:24 PM
SuckerForHorses - 2014-09-03 7:21 AM komet. - 2014-09-02 7:20 PM Horses shed the frog twice a year spring and fall.... I have no idea if this will grow back.. Normally it takes frog pressure to keep them healthy and growing... Without an added pad to provide pressure to what is left... I just can't say.. IMO, if the entire frog all of a sudden drops off, it's NOT normal shedding, it's diseased. If pieces and parts of the frog wear down and flake off, that is normal "shedding" from wear and tear on the frog. Entire frogs should not just be falling from the hoof as a whole piece - there is an underlying issue if that's happening.
The first time one of my own horses shed the frog completely I freaked out also. When I called the vet he told me not to worry it is natural.
"I have seen healthy horses that didn't have regular hoof care shed the frog completely and within a couple months it had regrown."
Well, if they didn't have regular hoof care, what makes you think there wasn't disease that caused the frog to fall off?
It's live tissue so of course its always generating new healthy tissue and the old has to go somewhere. It's just my opinion that to have an entire frog come off at once, exposing sensitive tissue underneath, there was an underlying cause in addition to the "normal shedding" that occurs with the old tissue.
Frog coming off as healthy grows in to replace it = normal
Frog coming off and leaving nothing behind and then takes a while for new frog to grow back = not normal and the loss of the frog was from an underlying condition (abscess, thrush, etc).
OP, I know your frog came off because of an abscess. My post above is just in general, in response to a few other posts. |
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| I have had frogs "shed" on horses that DO have regular hoof care and no disease. Yes, they shed.
I have also had a draft cross with an ongoing abcess that I soaked for about 1 1/2 months and could not clear up. Took him to another vet and he ended up removing a piece of what looked to be railroad tie from the tip of the frog, about 2" long and bigger around than my finger. All the soaking had pulled the abcess completely under the bottom of the frog and had broken out the heel. The complete frog was undermined and DID grow back. Sorry, can't remember the timeframe, but common sense says that if they shed twice a year, a complete frog is generated in less than 6 months. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | rodeoveteran - 2014-09-03 2:14 PM
I have had frogs "shed" on horses that DO have regular hoof care and no disease. Yes, they shed.
I have also had a draft cross with an ongoing abcess that I soaked for about 1 1/2 months and could not clear up. Took him to another vet and he ended up removing a piece of what looked to be railroad tie from the tip of the frog, about 2" long and bigger around than my finger. All the soaking had pulled the abcess completely under the bottom of the frog and had broken out the heel. The complete frog was undermined and DID grow back. Sorry, can't remember the timeframe, but common sense says that if they shed twice a year, a complete frog is generated in less than 6 months.
That's why I qualified my statement with the part about 'frog pressure'.. Normally it is required for natural growth.. Without some kind of pad in place to provide pressure to what is left I'm not sure how long it would take to come back.. Plus, without pressure the heels will start to contract. |
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| I also had a filly lose her frog after I found a nail that had been in her foot. Fortunately it was around Oct/Nov so I really wasnt able to ride her over the winter but the whole process took 4+ months for me to get her riding sound again. And two years later she is fine with no foot issues. |
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| Had one get an infection in a frog due to an undetected cut. Vet ended up removing frog. We packed whole hoof with Vet-tech CS silicon for I think like 2 shoeings, . The frog was small , but it did grow back in a few months. It is a little deformed, but not a big deal.
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