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Location: Washington | CJE - 2014-09-17 10:23 AM NJJ - 2014-09-16 12:25 PM fatchance - 2014-09-16 10:13 PM Fun read everyone. IF your signing into the military your saying you will go and do anything for that paycheck. This is not a draft military anymore...just a reminder. What I am reading is our 3,0o0 troops will be support, meaning building and training. DO not see them in the "hot zone". Personally if I was a parent with a child in the military I would rather see a deployment to East Africa verses Iraq.
Just WHERE do you think they will be building hospitals and training hospital workers? Our MILITARY should not be forced to take on this "project" of the President. I would rather see him financially help any volunteer organizations who are willing to go there.
Cuba has sent over a hundred health care workers to Africa.
Listen people I get the fact you disagree with me, so be it. But this is a serious issues and like all things the USA is usually the front runner in sending help. And NJJ unless our engineers are going to exchange spit or body fluids with the infected they should not be in danger. Right now Eboli is not airborn. Done with this conversation, nothing else to add, but feel free to keep hitting that dislike button, love it!
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Eight members of a team trying to raise awareness about Ebola have been killed by villagers using machetes and clubs in Guinea, officials say.
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I just saw this on my FOX News feed that eight were killed and found in a latrine. May the people that killed these healthcare workers die a slow miserable death. Prayers for the families... |
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Location: Texas | I guess I am one of the odd men out in this one. I have to agree with fat chance! As a former military person I signed up to serve the USA and do what needed to be done. I beleive that they need support in Africa and I agree that they would be well served with a hospital ship to help. Where I do t agree is the direct patient care should be done by the CDC or WHO or even the military medical folks. We should be yeing more thout Obama and families vacation costs. Free cell phones to people and people living off our country as mooches not a truly humanitarian mission to help innocent people. There is a reason we are the greatest country in the world and people go to extreme length to get her. Why should we become isolationists and close our eyes to what is going on in the world because we are broke. There are other ways to cut the budget. As far as exposure to Ebola and bringing it back here if they did a quarantine period prior to return to us then that would prevent spread of disease. Just my thoughts flame away. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | barrelbasher - 2014-09-19 11:48 AM I guess I am one of the odd men out in this one. I have to agree with fat chance! As a former military person I signed up to serve the USA and do what needed to be done. I beleive that they need support in Africa and I agree that they would be well served with a hospital ship to help. Where I do t agree is the direct patient care should be done by the CDC or WHO or even the military medical folks. We should be yeing more thout Obama and families vacation costs. Free cell phones to people and people living off our country as mooches not a truly humanitarian mission to help innocent people. There is a reason we are the greatest country in the world and people go to extreme length to get her. Why should we become isolationists and close our eyes to what is going on in the world because we are broke. There are other ways to cut the budget. As far as exposure to Ebola and bringing it back here if they did a quarantine period prior to return to us then that would prevent spread of disease. Just my thoughts flame away.
Any senseable person isn't going to flame you or FC.
The problem I see is our borders aren't secure and the safety of the US is more important to me then sending troops to Africa. I just feel our priorities are all screwed up.
FC just got back from Africa and I live close to the border so of course we would look at things differently as both of us have seen firsthand and when you are living it, it's a whole different ball game then someone telling you about it. JMHO |
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Agree...........sadly I don't think this is going to end............. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I just think it's high time we demand that the so-called civilized, free world get in the game. I don't think the troops will necessarily be exposed to Ebola so much as I think we have been carrying the world on our backs and paying for it ourselves...whether it's combatting Ebola, terrorists, or Vladmir Putin. Obama's mantra of "paying your fair share" should apply in these instances in the same way. Any time we send troops anywhere, there is risk to them, plus astronomical costs. We need to turn up the heat. |
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Location: Kansas | 3000 sounds like an awful lot of troops to me. Where do you put this many soldiers while they're doing what they're being sent there to do. Constructing housing for them? Food? Sanitation? I'm just seeing millions and millions of dollars being spent for the needs of people who probably don't want them to be there and won't welcome them.
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Location: Texas | Nevertooold - 2014-09-19 12:14 PM
barrelbasher - 2014-09-19 11:48 AM I guess I am one of the odd men out in this one. I have to agree with fat chance! As a former military person I signed up to serve the USA and do what needed to be done. I beleive that they need support in Africa and I agree that they would be well served with a hospital ship to help. Where I do t agree is the direct patient care should be done by the CDC or WHO or even the military medical folks. We should be yeing more thout Obama and families vacation costs. Free cell phones to people and people living off our country as mooches not a truly humanitarian mission to help innocent people. There is a reason we are the greatest country in the world and people go to extreme length to get her. Why should we become isolationists and close our eyes to what is going on in the world because we are broke. There are other ways to cut the budget. As far as exposure to Ebola and bringing it back here if they did a quarantine period prior to return to us then that would prevent spread of disease. Just my thoughts flame away.
Any senseable person isn't going to flame you or FC.
The problem I see is our borders aren't secure and the safety of the US is more important to me then sending troops to Africa. I just feel our priorities are all screwed up.
FC just got back from Africa and I live close to the border so of course we would look at things differently as both of us have seen firsthand and when you are living it, it's a whole different ball game then someone telling you about it. JMHO
Thanks NTO I agree that the border is a HUGE problem and has been for a long time and we definaty need to secure it. In truth it is a higher priority than sending troops to Africa, but I beleive that if organized correctly we should be as to do both. Again it goes back to thinking smartly and getting people back to work and off welfare. Obozo needs to Stop downsizing our military and stop playing golf and taking vacations on our countries dime! I may be completely off my rocker but I would gladly strap my 9mm back on and pick back up my M16 for a while to defend our borders and our country. For a country full of brilliant people we certainly should be able to come up reasonable solutions to the current economic and political climate. |
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Location: Texas | fatchance - 2014-09-16 10:13 PM Fun read everyone. IF your signing into the military your saying you will go and do anything for that paycheck. This is not a draft military anymore...just a reminder. What I am reading is our 3,0o0 troops will be support, meaning building and training. DO not see them in the "hot zone". Personally if I was a parent with a child in the military I would rather see a deployment to East Africa verses Iraq.
Why does it have to be either or? Now that I have kids, everytime any fighting is brought up I think "would I want my child to fight? Who is making the decisions? Are they the best decisions for this country or is a decision based on political bullshi/t that my child could die for." But really, not only die for but give up years for. I was giving birth in the room next to a mother giving birth all alone except for skype. These decisions have such a major impact on the lives of the military and yes, they did sign up for the military but should they be used and abused for political gain? Hell no. I'm not saying we should bend over and take it from terrorists or any other country/organization that's a threat but c'mon...we also don't need to butt in where we don't have a solid interest. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Frodo - 2014-09-19 12:25 PM 3000 sounds like an awful lot of troops to me. Where do you put this many soldiers while they're doing what they're being sent there to do. Constructing housing for them? Food? Sanitation? I'm just seeing millions and millions of dollars being spent for the needs of people who probably don't want them to be there and won't welcome them.
Using Sanitation and Africa in the same sentence is kind of an oxymoron. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | barrelbasher - 2014-09-19 1:39 PM Nevertooold - 2014-09-19 12:14 PM barrelbasher - 2014-09-19 11:48 AM I guess I am one of the odd men out in this one. I have to agree with fat chance! As a former military person I signed up to serve the USA and do what needed to be done. I beleive that they need support in Africa and I agree that they would be well served with a hospital ship to help. Where I do t agree is the direct patient care should be done by the CDC or WHO or even the military medical folks. We should be yeing more thout Obama and families vacation costs. Free cell phones to people and people living off our country as mooches not a truly humanitarian mission to help innocent people. There is a reason we are the greatest country in the world and people go to extreme length to get her. Why should we become isolationists and close our eyes to what is going on in the world because we are broke. There are other ways to cut the budget. As far as exposure to Ebola and bringing it back here if they did a quarantine period prior to return to us then that would prevent spread of disease. Just my thoughts flame away. Any senseable person isn't going to flame you or FC.
The problem I see is our borders aren't secure and the safety of the US is more important to me then sending troops to Africa. I just feel our priorities are all screwed up.
FC just got back from Africa and I live close to the border so of course we would look at things differently as both of us have seen firsthand and when you are living it, it's a whole different ball game then someone telling you about it. JMHO Thanks NTO I agree that the border is a HUGE problem and has been for a long time and we definaty need to secure it. In truth it is a higher priority than sending troops to Africa, but I beleive that if organized correctly we should be as to do both. Again it goes back to thinking smartly and getting people back to work and off welfare. Obozo needs to Stop downsizing our military and stop playing golf and taking vacations on our countries dime! I may be completely off my rocker but I would gladly strap my 9mm back on and pick back up my M16 for a while to defend our borders and our country. For a country full of brilliant people we certainly should be able to come up reasonable solutions to the current economic and political climate.
There isn't any reasonable solutions because of all the Bozo's we have in Congress. Common sense left the Capitol years ago. When I think how Pelosi was the House Leader for so many years and she keeps getting re-elected..It is really scary and most sane people would think it was a joke instead of a reality.. |
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