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Location: Somewhere around here | How can you tell when your horse is being a pain because he is hurt and the difference between being a pain in the butt because he is just young and headstrong?
I know the obvious signs of pain; rising head, head tossing, gaping mouth, and a few other signs but I also know with training young horses you've got to get through their "teenage years". | |
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| cecollins0811 - 2014-09-19 8:00 AM How can you tell when your horse is being a pain because he is hurt and the difference between being a pain in the butt because he is just young and headstrong? I know the obvious signs of pain; rising head, head tossing, gaping mouth, and a few other signs but I also know with training young horses you've got to get through their "teenage years".
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Location: Missouri | I've only had two young horses, so this may not count for much. But, I'm one who leans towards training issues. And, I do think they should behave even if they are hurting. I don't like to use "pain" as an excuse for ill behavior (bucking, biting, etc). But, I will be WAY more understanding if it's something they are offering to try and not being successful (lead changes, lead departures, stopping, bending, collecting, etc.)
I currently have a 4 y/o who is a nightmare! I feel like 99% of his issues have been "between his ears", so to speak. But, I am finally to the point where I'm experiencing him actually TRY with most things. I am having issues (specifically with collecting), so I am more than willing to help him out since I feel like he's put in effort.
Hope that makes a little bit of sense!
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Location: Somewhere around here | just4fun - 2014-09-19 9:16 AM
I've only had two young horses, so this may not count for much. But, I'm one who leans towards training issues. And, I do think they should behave even if they are hurting. I don't like to use "pain" as an excuse for ill behavior (bucking, biting, etc). But, I will be WAY more understanding if it's something they are offering to try and not being successful (lead changes, lead departures, stopping, bending, collecting, etc.)
I currently have a 4 y/o who is a nightmare! I feel like 99% of his issues have been "between his ears", so to speak. But, I  am finally to the point where I'm experiencing him actually TRY with most things. I am having issues (specifically with collecting), so I am more than willing to help him out since I feel like he's put in effort.
Hope that makes a little bit of sense!
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That does, thank you! He is a five year old and we didn't have any problems last year when he was 4, well not really besides just needing more wet saddle blankets. His whole 5 year old year it like he's not wanting to pay attention to me (on the ground or in the saddle), and then we'll be having great barrel days then the next day he's being a complete butthead or stubborn. I never pushed him hard when he was three and only started asking more of him half way through his 4 year old year so I don't think I've made him hurt by taking it slow. Does he just need to age more and eventually become more mature?
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Location: Texas | I had a three year old filly who was super talented. Ran her as a 4 year old and by that late summer we were running 2D and 1D.. ran a 17.8 at ANHA as a 4 year old her first weekend show away from home.
Her 5 year old year she started out in the 1D and progressively got worse. Everyone told me she was in a phase that all young horses go through.. she kept falling apart and getting worse and I kept getting reassured that young horses just do that.
i finally had enough after she ran at her second ANHA and fell apart…ran 19s the whole weekend. That October my vet looked at her again and found an OCD lesion and chip in her stifle. It explained everything. I ended up selling her to a BB who has her as a broodmare. I bet if you were to leg her up next year she would be awesome again.
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