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barrelbrat101
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2014-09-21 6:24 PM
Subject: Failed Flex Tests?


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I had listed my gelding for sale due to a family emergency and unplanned move the end of this month. Now the potential buyers who spent about a week with the horse would like to do x-rays because of failed flexions in the front feet during vet check. They are first time horse owners and their trainer is a friend of mine. This horse was brought over by friends of mine as a 6 month old and wasn't started until 4. They used him as a back up head horse for a while but nothing much was done with him until he was 7 when I bought him. I slowly started him on barrels and hauled him for the first year or so. Since then I've been so busy with work/school that I've kept him legged up but only run him occasionally. He's never come up lame or sore, no limping, no injuries. Same shoer since he was a colt, chiro regularly, never needed injections. Literally nothing.

This isn't my vet, just who they chose for the pre-purchase. The last time I sold a horse this vet was used for a pre-purchase as well. Said they potential buyers needed to x-ray because she was "off" here and there... $$$... all x-rays came back clean. I completely understand as a buyer wanting to do a pre-purchase but I feel like its rare for a horse to be 100% during a vet check and every vet wants you to do x-rays. Their trainer has explained that to them as well as they are new to this whole thing. The vet called me and leaves me a voicemail that she wouldn't worry about it and its just slight, but then is throwing out the word navicular to the potential buyers and their trainer the entire time?!? The vet is calling me tomorrow about what she saw and will then set up x-rays with the potential buyers... I've seen a lot of sound horses fail flex tests but I've never dealt with this. If he was navicular don't you think I'd have seen some signs of it already? Starting to panic a little...

Edited by barrelbrat101 2014-09-21 6:26 PM
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-09-21 6:34 PM
Subject: RE: Failed Flex Tests?


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A sound horse should pass a flexion test, I had a horse who was receiving injections for osteoarthritis in front feet for 6 years pass a flexion test when I loaned him out to a high school girl. I have the X-rays from 6 years prior that show certain spots bone on bone.

Since it is the potential buyers paying for the X-rays, I would go ahead, and early navicular may not show on older xray machines, it may also not show depending on the radiation used during the xray.

Also some horses will not show lameness issues till late in the disease process if they are not worked hard, and often, or are just a gritty horse, some have higher pain tolerances then others.

No point in worrying till the vet completes the X-rays
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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-09-21 10:17 PM
Subject: RE: Failed Flex Tests?


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Have this vet call your vet. Also get the vet exam before releasing horse out of your care. Sorry you are dealing with this
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SuckerForHorses
Reg. Apr 2014
Posted 2014-09-22 6:44 AM
Subject: RE: Failed Flex Tests?


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"The vet called me and leaves me a voicemail that she wouldn't worry about it and its just slight, but then is throwing out the word navicular to the potential buyers and their trainer the entire time?!? "

And this is why the vet hired by the prospective buyer shouldn't even be discussing this with you. The prospective buyer is the one hiring that vet; its a conflict of interest for this vet to be going back and forth with you and them.

Additionally, yes, it is possible for there to be an issue that you didn't notice until now. Happens all the time. How often do you flex your horse and watch it move out? Probably not often. Flexions can show a vet a lot of what cannot be seen from an owner's eye. That's why people do them prior to purchase; to make sure there isn't something going on that appears normal when the horse's joints are not stressed.
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