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Bleeders.... Not Bleeding Out

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UTAHCANCHASER
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2014-10-30 9:06 AM
Subject: Bleeders.... Not Bleeding Out



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I have dealt with bleeders but they have always bled out.  I think  I have one right now that is not bleeding out (yes I do have a vet appointment). 

My question is what where your horses sypmtoms?   
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heidiinaz
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-10-30 9:11 AM
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 I have one like this. He started coughing after the run and just felt like he didn't finish the run strong. Had him scoped and he was a bleeder. I give him LASix and he is running great
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UTAHCANCHASER
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2014-10-30 9:24 AM
Subject: RE: Bleeders.... Not Bleeding Out



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heidiinaz - 2014-10-30 8:11 AM  I have one like this. He started coughing after the run and just felt like he didn't finish the run strong. Had him scoped and he was a bleeder. I give him LASix and he is running great

Nothing more out of the ordinary other than the cough and not finishing strong?   
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JLBerry
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2014-10-30 9:24 AM
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Mine was a lunatic in the alley. Then he would run hard to first barrel, but tire out and get slower to 2nd and 3rd. He would cough but only occasionally. He was also just more nervous than usual just riding him. Once I figured out he was bleeding and had him scoped and gave him appropriate meds, he his back to his usual self!
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BMW
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2014-10-30 5:05 PM
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My mare would sneeze hard 5 or 6 times immediately after a run, start slowing down going to third and home.
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rowdy54
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2014-10-30 6:19 PM
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I've seen horses run off, slow down, blow off barrels, an duck barrels from bleeding. Some hate to go in for their run. Some blow out their nose or nicker when they come out from run.
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iloveequine40
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2014-10-30 7:19 PM
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Mine coughed on occasion. Started getting hot in alley or balking to go in. Would either run like a runaway to 1st and work, but not run, or he was just sluggish. Scoped, 30 days turn out to let capillaries heal and now I just give him 3cc lasix 2-2 1/2 hrs before run.
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Barnmom
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2014-10-31 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: Bleeders.... Not Bleeding Out



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Wouldn't drink after a run when she used to nicker for her water bucket, fading running to the third barrel in super deep, big arenas.  Never coughed or sneezed, never actually saw blood.  Turns out she had summer pasture COPD which caused her to bleed. 
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trickster j
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2014-10-31 9:23 AM
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Alley problems, running off, smashing barrels..........  
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ctdrumrunr
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-10-31 1:09 PM
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 My bleeder walks right in, runs great to the 1st and then takes off like a shot coming off the 2nd like he was hotshot) feels like he is running scared, and the walks out of the arena and never coughs.  Pretty sure he was bleeding but not out and then one day he started bleeding out and he stilll did not have the typical symptoms. 
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snoopy
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-10-31 6:45 PM
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after a run, try giving them hay or light grain off of the ground, sometimes they will end up bleeding out when their head is down
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soonergirl98
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2014-11-01 10:37 AM
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I had one that didn't bleed out. I didn't know that he was a bleeder until we scoped him after a run. He would get really hot not want to be anywhere near the gate. He would occasionally cough after a run. But one 3 day events his time would get slower with each run so we scoped him and his lungs were full of blood. He had been treated for ulcers and I originally thought those issues were due to ulcers. We gave him antibiotics, I put him on the loading dose of Immune by Animal Element and gave him 3 weeks off. I keep him on the regular dose of immune now.
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soonergirl98
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2014-11-01 10:40 AM
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I did give lasix in the beginning but now he has been on the Immune for over a year we don't need lasix any more. And he has been scoped again to make sure.
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dashnlotti
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2014-11-02 12:37 PM
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Anytime T-Bo has bled, he coasts out from the third, then doesn't stop good out of the alley.  When I pull back to stop, he'll kinda stretch his neck out and make a weird wheezing noise.  Did it last night and I just knew.  He then coughed.  I walked him out like normal, and sure enough when I got off to loosen everything, there was blood.  Nothing I could about at that point but I did let him eat grass after a unsaddled to keep his head down.  He coughed 2-3 times after we ran.  Made a smoking run too, but the high lope home didn't do us any favors.  I'll pick him up some smz's in the am and run those through him and give hom some time off, guess we won't be going to the $10,000 added next weekend!!  I have a call in to the vet to see what he thinks we should do.  May be upping lasix or trying something else.  He was scoped the second time he bled way back when and vet said he's a "true bleeder".
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dashnlotti
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2014-11-02 12:39 PM
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soonergirl98 - 2014-11-01 10:37 AM I had one that didn't bleed out. I didn't know that he was a bleeder until we scoped him after a run. He would get really hot not want to be anywhere near the gate. He would occasionally cough after a run. But one 3 day events his time would get slower with each run so we scoped him and his lungs were full of blood. He had been treated for ulcers and I originally thought those issues were due to ulcers. We gave him antibiotics, I put him on the loading dose of Immune by Animal Element and gave him 3 weeks off. I keep him on the regular dose of immune now.

This also.  T-Bo used to do terrible anytime we had to make more than one run a weekend.  Now, we typically get faster on the second run. 
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luvinrunnin
Reg. Jan 2006
Posted 2014-11-02 8:06 PM
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This horse got nuts trying to get him in the pen one run and then he didn't clock at all. Next run, he went in decent, but didn't run for crap. When we pulled him off the trailer at home he had a couple drops of blood in his nostril. 

Started this horse on lasix and he's like a new horse.

 
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