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| cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-01-11 10:14 AM
Good post. I don't like what happens to my horses on grain. My main guy gets alfalfa pellets with a multivitamin and a few supplements he needs. Per some research I've been doing, I'm starting him on coconut flakes and REALLY want to try Renew Gold (just working on how to get it here...) My other horse is on Ultium and I swear it's made him more nuts than he already was. He's a hard keeper though so I'm hoping to switch him to renew gold soon as well. If it is impossible to get it up here in the end (which I hope isn't the case, I'm working w/ the company) I'll probably go with Nutrena's rice bran/flax feed, alfalfa pellets, and coconut oil.Â
Where are you getting your coconut flakes from and how much are you feeding? |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | JLBerry - 2015-01-14 8:54 AM Mainer-racer - 2015-01-14 7:28 AM JLBerry - 2015-01-11 4:08 PM I feed Renew Gold, alfalfa pellets and alfalfa cubes. Also, give some coastal hay/pasture turn out. It works great and my horses have had ZERO digestive problems. When feeding Renew Gold, do you add the pellets without soaking? I'm assuming you soak the cubes? I do not soak they pellets. They are small and easy to chew. I DO SOAK the cubes though for about 10-15 mins before I feed them.
Thank you its so confusing whether to soak or not. I've always done it for the cubes. Thanks for the info! I wanted to add a little extra to the RG - I'll try those pellets! |
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Location: North Dakota | trulyaroyaljem - 2015-01-14 12:08 PM cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-01-11 10:14 AM Good post. I don't like what happens to my horses on grain. My main guy gets alfalfa pellets with a multivitamin and a few supplements he needs. Per some research I've been doing, I'm starting him on coconut flakes and REALLY want to try Renew Gold (just working on how to get it here...) My other horse is on Ultium and I swear it's made him more nuts than he already was. He's a hard keeper though so I'm hoping to switch him to renew gold soon as well. If it is impossible to get it up here in the end (which I hope isn't the case, I'm working w/ the company) I'll probably go with Nutrena's rice bran/flax feed, alfalfa pellets, and coconut oil. Where are you getting your coconut flakes from and how much are you feeding?
tropicaltraditions.com per SG. She feeds a cup a day so I've been working up to that. My horse doesn't seem to mind them. I just got my first bag of Renew Gold on order though so I'll be switching to that. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | Fairweather - 2015-01-13 7:09 PM Just curious--- has anyone ever noticed an increase in energy or had a horse get hot on beet pulp?
I've had people say they don't / can't but it's touted as an easy to digest source of energy. I've had a few horses noticeably hot on beet pulp- even the non molasses kind.
You may have had a side effect of aluminum toxicity in feeding the beet pulp. Once you get the toxicity under control with chelation therapy and then the proper mineral balance on your horse they will act better. Talk to a nutritionist...that I'm not. But have had some success with balanced minerals.
A decade ago I had a pretty nice horse and he got difficult to rodeo with. I got him off the "grains" and things seemed to go better for him. It's neat for me to see how many of the top girls are feeding less grain and getting great results. The road is a hard place for an animal so their nutrition is of utmost importance and quality fiber sources are at the top of the list. |
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| I took my mare off of grain on 1/1. We have been having back soreness issues and after vet visits, chiro visits and massages, plus a new farrier she was still sore. I decided to give this a shot. I took her off grain and doubled her ChaffHay. I added 1# of omegatin per feeding. And kept her on the diatomaceous earth and fasttrack. I also added aloe vera juice. She is happier. Eating faster and not as grumpy. I think its working for us :) |
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Location: Buffalo, TX | Here's another good way to determine what type of horse you are dealing with to get the feed correct....Dr. Madalyn Ward in Texas uses the Traditional Chinese Medicine way to type horses according to the 5 different elements...they are Fire, Wood, Metal, Earth, Water...she has the test on her web page so you can type your own horse (pick the detailed test version for a more accurate result). She also has a book called Horse Harmony that goes into detail about figuring this out and goes into the best way to feed & train, etc. for each element...very interesting.
http://holistichorsekeeping.com/brief-introduction-five-element-horse-types-temperaments/#.VLfliiimU1I
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | uno-dos-tres! - 2015-01-15 4:12 AM Fairweather - 2015-01-13 7:09 PM Just curious--- has anyone ever noticed an increase in energy or had a horse get hot on beet pulp?
I've had people say they don't / can't but it's touted as an easy to digest source of energy. I've had a few horses noticeably hot on beet pulp- even the non molasses kind. You may have had a side effect of aluminum toxicity in feeding the beet pulp. Once you get the toxicity under control with chelation therapy and then the proper mineral balance on your horse they will act better. Talk to a nutritionist...that I'm not. But have had some success with balanced minerals.
A decade ago I had a pretty nice horse and he got difficult to rodeo with. I got him off the "grains" and things seemed to go better for him. It's neat for me to see how many of the top girls are feeding less grain and getting great results. The road is a hard place for an animal so their nutrition is of utmost importance and quality fiber sources are at the top of the list.
Is this due to the manufacturing process or is it something in the beet pulp itself?
One horse can use all the energy he can get, the rest don't need it. My mares are awfully bright eyes and Bushy tailed off the grain- more than they were on the grain I think, lol! .I'm feeding the beet pulp that's in the yellow and white bags. I've had the same difference for several years when I've gone back to feeding it.. |
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| Just was wondering if anyone has ever tried the supplement called "HS35"? I think it's made in Minnesota and it's supposed to be a complete supplement. I believe you can find it at Fleet Farm. |
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